Un(bl**dy)believable and we cannot blame Ganson this time. That's 3 games in a row where conceeding penalty after penalty, defensive errors and the wrong mental attitude has lost us the game. I thought the reasons for the defeat by Saints and KR had been addressed in training and the team as a whole would have learnt by this but they must have been napping at that point. The players are being paid to do a job so now is the time to start earning their wages and taking onto the field what they have been practising in training. Wire fills me with dread and can see us fighting to stay in the top 8 at this rate, my glass is definitely half empty atm. Come on FC get it sorted.

Worrying mate.

think the team needs rotating, bring the youngsters in and send a clear message that complacency will not be tolerated. Cant knock Manu but since Turner turned his contract down he seems to of gone backwards, perhaps let him rot in the 20's until end of season
May seem a bit over the top but being realistic we arnt going to win out this year and will give the rest of the squad a good kick up the @rse

That will add more fuel on the fire then.

It appears there has been for at least 7 or 8 seasons and it's not yet been identified and dealt with. P45 any player who thinks he's above the club and more importantly can't be bothered to play for us. We deserve better we really do.

He mentioned that some players didn't have the right attitude. Drop them, then.

I'm a Saints fan - I have no axe to grind...

Your position now is SOOOOO reminicent of us under Royce -

Predictable attack that is easy to read and defend

CAN'T hold onto a lead 14 points was nothing and we could always be sure we would loose it

Go behind and you cant come back

Coach bemoaning letting in too many points

If you concentrate on defense the attack goes to pot

Way, way too many penalties

Both from Wests and Tim Sheens - the only difference is that West Tigers have Benji Marshall to pull them out of holes Saints nor Hull have one of them...

Gentle not happy, Clarkey says it's the most angry he's seen him.

Personally I say so what, it's okay saying "we are not taking what we do in training onto the pitch" and so on but why is it not happening.

I still ahve faith in Gentle to sort it out but he can keep talking about a top four side, we're not even close right now.

Massive rebuilding to do I think and I also beleive there are a few people who Gentle isn't happy with but he wasn't naming names. One has to be Westerman, struggling for form after his injury but taking wrong options and giving away far too many penalties.

Also think our falling away might be too many forwards playing too many minutes.

Never mind drop them - get rid of them.

Westerman was poor this season before his injury.

That was amongst the worse defensive performances I have seen from an FC side.

The players seem unfit to me, Tickle in particular seemed to really struggling, Westerman gave away too many penalities for me and seems to be trading off a reputation built at another club as he has not been value for money thus far for us.

Seymour - awful performance today, I haven't seen a decent performance from him yet but am willing to be patient.

Turner - Not interested, wherever he got that pace from he has returned it to them

Briscoe - Anonymous

Lynch - Captain quiet, hopefully we will give the armband to somebody more vocal next season which is what we needed today when we had our backs to the wall, strangely even though its common knowledge Ellis is on his way he was the only one clapping his hands and trying to raise the players.

With all the players leaving at the end of the season and us been relatively quiet on signings I am starting to get very worried

I hope Turner has already signed that contract with Saints.

One game!!

Not one to slate individual players, but what does Westerman bring to the team. After 18 months I can't think of a game he's taken by the scruff of the neck. That £100k fee looks like madness.

We put that game on a plate for you at the start of each half but you didnt hve the hunger. When it got to 30-16 there was only one side in it. Same old Hull for you I am afraid such a shame for such loyal suporters. Keep the faith.

Thought he'd played 2 or 3. Did he play pre-season? Maybe I'm thinking of that.

Me too. Very poor today.

Agree with your thoughts on Westerman, Cas must have been laughing all the way to the bank.

He's proving that his run of 3/4 good games was just a blip - glad to see the back of him. Average player at best.

He was owned today. I have to say Yeaman showed his defensive class today in keeping hold of Collis a couple of times.

As much as I love Hull FC, faith is diminishing with each game.

You've got to be joking, he was your saviour and future captain at one point

Same here just seems waste of money

What was said (or not)?

Basically there are issues going on he's not prepared to talk about , Nothing scandalous though.