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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"At that level/age group they are.'" At school level not club level though, massive difference.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not happy about it, but just pointing out that the best at that level around are signed for Rovers, so at the minute it would be the other way around.'"
They can't even sign before they're 16 can they?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They can't even sign before they're 16 can they?'"
Don't know the exact ruling but 90% of that Sirius team are signed for Rovers. The 14 year old that lives near me has 'signed' for them.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"At school level not club level though, massive difference.'"
But the point still stands that the best 15/16 year olds knocking around are at Rovers.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"But the point still stands that the best 15/16 year olds knocking around are at Rovers.'"
That is not entirely true at that particular age group...the best 15 yr old by some distance is on Hulls books and is presently in Oz learning his trade, Harry Tyson ([ione [/iof the best in the country at that age).
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"[uDon't know the exact ruling [/ubut 90% of that Sirius team are signed for Rovers. The 14 year old that lives near me has 'signed' for them.'"
They are on the books so to speak, they get a contract offer at 16s, that is when they start getting paid.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"That is not entirely true at that particular age group...the best 15 yr old by some distance is on Hulls books and is presently in Oz learning his trade, Harry Tyson ([ione [/iof the best in the country at that age).'"
We have the best one, I agree. But they have numbers 2-16 after that, unfortunately.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"We have the best one, I agree. But they have numbers 2-16 after that, unfortunately.'"
I disagree, we have our fair share at that age group, also there will be some movement come contract time there always is. Also worth noting that out of each age group only 1-3 will actually make the grade and hopefully we have those 1-3
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"They are on the books so to speak, they get a contract offer at 16s, that is when they start getting paid.'"
Officially get the offer on June 1st I believe. I expect 3 of the Hull U16s to be announced as signed on in the next week or so.
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| Did anybody read Neil Hudgells interview in the HDM today? I dont see how a draft system between Hull and Rovers could ever work in practice.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Did anybody read Neil Hudgells interview in the HDM today? I dont see how a draft system between Hull and Rovers could ever work in practice.'"
Didnt read it mate but would like to understand the full implications of an academy share.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Did anybody read Neil Hudgells interview in the HDM today? I dont see how a draft system between Hull and Rovers could ever work in practice.'"
It's a restraint of trade surely and would fall on it's ass as soon as an ardent Hull fan was told he had to sign for rovers or vice versa. Also, how would it possibly work if one club were willing to offer more cash/better terms or a longer deal. Complete non starter for me and a poor decision from pearson IMO
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Didnt read it mate but would like to understand the full implications of an academy share.'"
Hudge said that discussions are at an advanced stage to operate a joint Academy up to 19 and then operate a draft system for the kids that turn pro.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's a restraint of trade surely and would fall on it's ass as soon as an ardent Hull fan was told he had to sign for rovers or vice versa. Also, how would it possibly work if one club were willing to offer more cash/better terms or a longer deal. Complete non starter for me and a poor decision from pearson IMO'"
I agree. Seems like the actions of 2 skint clubs to be honest who know that they cant catch the top clubs on their own.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Hudge said that discussions are at an advanced stage to operate a joint Academy up to 19 and then operate a draft system for the kids that turn pro.'"
Worse than I thought then. First steps towards the merger
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Worse than I thought then. First steps towards the merger'"
Merger was the first thing I thought!
Once the combined U18 team becomes the the best in the comp light bulbs will switch on.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Merger was the first thing I thought!
Once the combined U18 team becomes the the best in the comp light bulbs will switch on.'"
It will be interesting to see what the other Super League clubs think. I can remember when a Wigan led rebellion resulted in Hull Schoolboys having to split into East Hull Schools and West Hull schools because of our dominance at 11s 13s and 16s levels.
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| I'm totally against the proposed joint academy set up with Rovers.
Why would either club want a system that prevents them signing certain players?
We should be aiming at signing all the best local talent, not sharing them out.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I'm totally against the proposed joint academy set up with Rovers.
Why would either club want a system that prevents them signing certain players?
We should be aiming at signing all the best local talent, not sharing them out.'"
Agreed. What exactly is in this for us? Hudgell is relentless in having digs at us and has previous for rule-bending, why get into bed with him on something as important as this?
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| noticed a couple of sporting 'stars' at the game today, bobby goulding, (i presume that is his lad who played for wire today) and nick barmby in attendence
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| Quote ="number 6"noticed a couple of sporting 'stars' at the game today, bobby goulding, (i presume that is his lad who played for wire today) and nick barmby in attendence'"
Yes, Bobbie's lad is our U18 scrum half who is playing a few games at U20 level. Looks to be doing pretty well at the moment and has a good kicking game - cant think where he gets that from.....
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| what was the score and did anyone impress?
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| Quote ="sparky1963"what was the score and did anyone impress?'"
Plenty on the warrington side by the sounds of it.
Only seen the U20's a couple of times this season but can't say I've watched them and thought there were any likely SL players in waiting
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Plenty on the warrington side by the sounds of it.
Only seen the U20's a couple of times this season but can't say I've watched them and thought there were any likely SL players in waiting'"
Jamie Shaul did well at fullback, not afraid to dictate players in defensive positions.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"1 of the first things that Smith did when he got in charge at Wire was take John Bastiman from Leeds to be their head of youth development.
Totally agree we have nothing to gain by allowing them to share our facilities and using our scouting system in the rest of Yorkshire.'"
John Bastian arrived at Warrington a year before Tony Smith!!! He is doing a fantastic job though
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