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| Quote ="ashleyheard1989"He wasn't struggling when he went over for a try though. seems he knows he isn't playing well and just pretends to be carrying a knock..
I think he's a class talent but isn't showing nothing at the moment.. seems sharp has all the class atm'"
What a load of old crap. Build 'em up then knock 'em down, eh?
He's not in the best of form defensively but he's still scored six tries in eight games.
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| I don't think he's as good as some are making out. The hype and expectation make that worse. He looks to be lacking in confidence a bit as well. None of which is surprising at his age and stage of development but to be the great that many believe he will become he's going to have to deal with these things pretty quickly because the pressure is only going to grow. Hopefully Gentle can get the best out of him.
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| I completely disagree that he is 'disinterested' I sit in the East and right in front of me the physio asked him 2/3 times last night if he was fit enough to carry on, or if he wanted to go off, and Tom was adament he wanted to carry on and help the team out.
a player thinking of the next flight to Aus would have been straight down the tunnel and into the showers.
I also think that he isn't as involved in games because our attacking play is now more varied and we use both sides of the pitch to attack. Whereas for the last 4 years our one set move has been top give it to Manu, Yeaman and Briscoe and hope for the best.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"What a load of old crap. Build 'em up then knock 'em down, eh?
He's not in the best of form defensively but he's still scored six tries in eight games.'"
everyone's allowed there opinion.. and thats mine right now.. he's way off his normal self. yes stil scoring tries which good for him.. but he's way off the briscoe were used to seeing..
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What a load of cack.'"
Would have been a good place to end the thread.
He was absolutely smashed onto the deck in a tackle where he was a gnats c0ck from being lifted above the horizontal and it shook him up. Pity some of the people suggesting he is feigning injury couldn't try it out just to see.
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| I said to my dad teams have been doing us a favour by kicking at Sharp, he is catching everything at the moment. Its one of the weaker parts of Tom's game anyway the high ball and he would have dropped a few, hopefully he can do the same work Sharp has done because its worked for him.
I seem to remember him having a couple of off games at the start of last season, he wasn't bad last night apart from missing the kick. I'm sure Rovers will have seen it and will switch tactics on friday.
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| What a load of bulle! Hilarious thread this is. Pretending to carry a knock!
The lad is pure quality.
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| Tom was at the 20's today. Stood around the other side of the pitch for the 2nd half
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Tom was at the 20's today. Stood around the other side of the pitch for the 2nd half'"
Aaah seeing if the grass was greener on the other side was he
In all seriousness this thread is hilarious. The best player to come through in years and years and years is being accused of being disinterested and pretending to be injured when his form has dipped a bit (debatable). All because he dares to be honest about his ambitions.
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"Aaah seeing if the grass was greener on the other side was he
In all seriousness this thread is hilarious. The best player to come through in years and years and years is being accused of being disinterested and pretending to be injured when his form has dipped a bit (debatable). All because he dares to be honest about his ambitions.'"
Are you surprised that people in hull vilify someone with a bit of ambition?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Are you surprised that people in hull vilify someone with a bit of ambition?'"
No just disappointed. I sometimes wonder if they really do think those things like he is feigning injury or if they are on a wind-up and I have bitten.
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"Aaah seeing if the grass was greener on the other side was he
In all seriousness this thread is hilarious. The best player to come through in years and years and years is being accused of being disinterested and pretending to be injured when his form has dipped a bit (debatable). All because he dares to be honest about his ambitions.'"
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| People are entitled to their opinion but someone claiming he pretended to be injured really needs to give their head a bang and think about what they're typing. To accuse a professional player of that is pretty shameful tbh.
Fwiw i dont think Tom is in great form, but he's still a class act and he'd be one of the first on my team sheet every time, put on limp or not
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| how many tries has he scored in how many games so far this season... what more can we ask
his form isnt sizzling as we got used to seeing i agree but he is doing what he is paid to do, but to say he is faking it with injuries is well just silly at best
hey but were second in the table , I guess some have got to find something to complain about havent they
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| Tom is just a touch out of form for me, nothing major. He is still scoring tries but isn't busting the line like he was last year and has dropped the odd kick. He's been superb for 2/3 years so a slightly off spell should not lead to him being castigated.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"He's not quite at the races at the moment is he, can't help but think that the NRL is on his mind. Agree with the comment that this is something that Gentle probably needs to sit down with him about.
Did anyone else notice that during the 10 min or so that he was limping, almost every attack we played went his way lol'"
Yes, and I also noticed Bradford didn't attack him once!
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| I have a feeling first try on friday, we will see the best out of him because Dobbins will attack his side and he will get a lot of ball.
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| After seeing him at the under 20's yesterday it is quite apparent Tom has lost a little bit of weight/bulk recently, maybe intentionally: He's always been regarded as a centre playing on the wing, but he is now recognised mainly as an out and out winger by England/Hull Fc, could this weight loss be intentional to gain speed and agility? It has been quite obvious to all he has not been breaking the 1st tackle and winning the collision as much as previous seasons. No lack of interest or desire, maybe just a lack of strength?
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"After seeing him at the under 20's yesterday it is quite apparent Tom has lost a little bit of weight/bulk recently, maybe intentionally: He's always been regarded as a centre playing on the wing, but he is now recognised mainly as an out and out winger by England/Hull Fc, could this weight loss be intentional to gain speed and agility? It has been quite obvious to all he has not been breaking the 1st tackle and winning the collision as much as previous seasons. No lack of interest or desire, maybe just a lack of strength?'"
I don't think Briscoe's had any trouble with speed in the past - we've all witnessed some amazing tries by him - so I doubt it's that.
For me, I'd say that he may be slightly tired after playing non-stop for such a long time, and also that as we're all used to such high standards from him, even the slightest dip in form can look over-exaggerated.
iirc, people on here were calling for him to be dropped this time last season. Maybe he just starts the seasons slowly? I would call for all supporters to back the lad and not criticise him to a OTT degree as that will help nobody.
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| Quote ="Panda92"I don't think Briscoe's had any trouble with speed in the past - we've all witnessed some amazing tries by him - so I doubt it's that.
For me, I'd say that he may be slightly tired after playing non-stop for such a long time, and also that as we're all used to such high standards from him, even the slightest dip in form can look over-exaggerated.
iirc, people on here were calling for him to be dropped this time last season. Maybe he just starts the seasons slowly? I would call for all supporters to back the lad and not criticise him to a OTT degree as that will help nobody.'"
He has pace, just not what you would call outstanding pace, especially for an international winger.
I am certainly not criticising him. It is more of an observation and a reason for his dip in form.
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| Teams know he is a threat and will pay more attention to him
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| We also now score tries on the right side. So will naturally have less impact as we have mainly been a left sided team over recent years. Couple that with teams kicking to our right to Sharp and Tom is not seeing much ball at the minute
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| Perhaps with us having links to Richard Agar, we could enquire if Peter Fox was available from Wakey for a straight swap?
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| Quote ="old frightful"Perhaps with us having links to Richard Agar, we could enquire if Peter Fox was available from Wakey for a straight swap?'"
your kidding right?
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| Quote ="Saf"We also now score tries on the right side. So will naturally have less impact as we have mainly been a left sided team over recent years. Couple that with teams kicking to our right to Sharp and Tom is not seeing much ball at the minute'"
How many tries have our right sided wing/centre partnership got so far this season?
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