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| Quote ="GEvans75"Really? Ok Paul, because you know so I must be completely wrong.
Like I said I do not know one single Kiwi who knows who is, if you know Kiwi's they would be aware if a fellow Kiwi was good at rugby believe me and nobody i've spoken to at Warriors games has heard of him, and by the way my girlfriend is of maori decent and a South Aucklander and nobodies heard of him in the mad rugby world that is NZ.'" So what your saying is this so called Rugby mad nation doesn't know a player who's played for the New Zealand Maoris?
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| Quote ="Easty"So what your saying is this so called Rugby mad nation doesn't know a player who's played for the New Zealand Maoris?'"
So the defence of an opposition player continues... yes I do not know one person who knows who is. you've experienced a different response in New Zealand when you mention Chase?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Widdop is gash and only gets in the team because he plays in Oz. Lomax is good but isnt as good as Chase though might be in a few years'"
If Widdop is "gash" and get's in the England Team purely because he plays in the NRL, what is your rationale for the fact that Craig Bellamy has him as the starting 6 for Melbourne?
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| Quote ="Panda92"www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/23686/chase-pledges-his-future-to
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Frankly, I think it's pathetic. Countries aren't clubs, you can't just switch around. He's played for the NZ Maori and the Exiles in the past year, too. RFL and international RL looks a joke, this just undermines any credibility our sport had.'"
Inernational RL has and always will be a joke, this just emphasizes it even more.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"If Widdop is "gash" and get's in the England Team purely because he plays in the NRL, what is your rationale for the fact that Craig Bellamy has him as the starting 6 for Melbourne?'"
Why bother i'm convinced people on here have no idea how big the gap between the NRL and Super League is.
Unfortunately the gimmick which is the World Club challenge has given too many people the idea that the 2 leagues are not far apart.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"So the defence of an opposition player continues... yes I do not know one person who knows who is. you've experienced a different response in New Zealand when you mention Chase?'"
Beginning to think you live in a very secluded area have no friends and don't get out much.
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| He's not good enough for New Zealand that's the only reason he would play for England
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Really? Ok Paul, because you know so I must be completely wrong.
Like I said I do not know one single Kiwi who knows who is, if you know Kiwi's they would be aware if a fellow Kiwi was good at rugby believe me and nobody i've spoken to at Warriors games has heard of him, and by the way my girlfriend is of maori decent and a South Aucklander and nobodies heard of him in the mad rugby world that is NZ.'"
kiwis havent heard of him cos he hasnt been in NZ for 10yrs, he was 16 when he left, played in aus for 7 yrs then came over to SL where he has got his name as one of the best players in the league. something called experience might have helped him.
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| Quote ="SLtiger1"kiwis havent heard of him cos he hasnt been in NZ for 10yrs, he was 16 when he left, played in aus for 7 yrs then came over to SL where he has got his name as one of the best players in the league. something called experience might have helped him.'"
Yea I check the Super League website too, but thanks for the info.
Not good enough for New Zealand, neither of his parents are British, no citizenship means thanks but no thanks Chase.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Yea I check the Super League website too, but thanks for the info.
Not good enough for New Zealand, neither of his parents are British, no citizenship means thanks but no thanks Chase.'"
Get a grip pal. Rangi Chase has spent more of his life in England than Jack Reed.
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"Get a grip pal. Rangi Chase has spent more of his life in England than Jack Reed.'"
Thanks for you input and i'm not your pal.
Jack Reed was born in Keighley so an absolutely ridiculous comparison.
Clearly the criteria on my last post past you by.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Thanks for you input and i'm not your pal.
Jack Reed was born in Keighley so an absolutely ridiculous comparison.
Clearly the criteria on my last post past you by.'"
He left england when he was two. Therefore he has only spent two years in England, Rangi has been here 3. Jack Reed is as much an englishman as Rangi. PAL.
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| mcnamara is making the english team become a complete farce...rangi isnt, and never will be english, end of.....
jack reed, i can understand, but chase, heighington, faasavalu,manu etc etc, should hang there heads in shame..how this has been allowed to happen is a disgrace.....
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"mcnamara is making the english team become a complete farce...rangi isnt, and never will be english, end of.....
jack reed, i can understand, but chase, heighington, faasavalu,manu etc etc, should hang there heads in shame..how this has been allowed to happen is a disgrace.....'"
and Danny Brough?
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"He left england when he was two. Therefore he has only spent two years in England, Rangi has been here 3. Jack Reed is as much an englishman as Rangi. PAL.'"
dont talk wet..jack reed BORN IN ENGLAND..chase born in new zealand, thats enough for me to say that reed should be allowed to play and chase shouldnt do..
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"and Danny Brough?'"
born in england????????????????????????????????
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"born in england????????????????????????????????
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But can play for scotland and did........
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| What a farce.....this makes rugby league a laughing stock! I at least had pride in telling the rugby union supporters at work that we at least can call our team English.
Whilst I think Rangi is a good player I don't think he's international quality anyway. I wonder if this is Mcbanana's idea. If so I hope its just to give extra impetus to lads who were actually born here!
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| Like I said i'm not your pal and judging by your intellect I can't imagine we ever would be.
Rangi Chase is a New Zealand citizen, and because of some ridiculous loophole he can play for England, if he does we will be more of a laughing stock in this part of the world then we already are.
Steve McNamara is a desperate man.
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"But can play for scotland and did........'"
look, and the end of the day, if your born in england then you should be allowed to play, if you aint, then sod off....... simpleas that, maybe if these rules were used, the state of world international rugby league would be in a better shape......
fiji would benefit for a start, samoa,tonga too.....
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"look, and the end of the day, if your born in england then you should be allowed to play, if you aint, then sod off....... simpleas that, maybe if these rules were used, the state of world international rugby league would be in a better shape......
fiji would benefit for a start, samoa,tonga too.....'"
BUT it isnt therefore lets get on with it, if other countries are doing it then why should we not?
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Like I said i'm not your pal and judging by your intellect I can't imagine we ever would be.
Rangi Chase is a New Zealand citizen, and because of some ridiculous loophole he can play for England, if he does we will be more of a laughing stock in this part of the world then we already are.
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agreed, and getting beat by a team of so-called journeymen didnt help his cause either....saying that tho, why doesnt he try to get pat richards,manu and the rest from the exiles team to switch eligence to england, maybe then we'd have a decent team....
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| Quote ="NorthTiger"BUT it isnt therefore lets get on with it, if other countries are doing it then why should we not?'"
sheer principles...and if these rules continue to stand, international rugby will die........ how can you have a national team, with differant nationalities playing for them???
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"sheer principles...and if these rules continue to stand, international rugby will die........ how can you have a national team, with differant nationalities playing for them???'"
Because the rules are shabby. you can only play by the rules......
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