who ever gets the lowest crowds should go

kr hudd or wakey

as london n wales will saty

Yes,instead of allowing us to blood and develop young players and give them a chance,all we've done is go backwards as a club while we attempt to blood and develop a coach at the cost of everything else. It clearly isn't working but nobody at the top wants or is willing to admit they've knacked up.

why should it be based on just attendance?

This is why this franchise system is a complete farce, no one knows what the criteria is, its a joke, a team like Hudds who are currently riding high in SL sholud be slung out due to low crowds! If that happended the sport would be looked upon as an even bigger joke than it is already.
The only fair way is one up one down, who ever finishes top replaces whoever finishes bottom, simple, or even a 2 game play off between top and bottom home and away, winner stays up or comes up, that would fair and pretty exciting too.

That's the problem we have.

I can't see P+R returning until they is two fully functionally full time leagues. I'm not a fan of extending the league at the moment, I think we play enough games as it is and players who are called up for internationals very rarely get an off season. Which IMO is no good in helping players improve.

I'd be in favor of two ten full time leagues for the time being with the view to adding to them over a period of time.

fully agree, we need championship teams to really improve espcially of the field if the likes of barrow, whitehaven, swinton, york and featherstone can get there new stadiums and with the likes of leigh and halifax and maybe another french club theres good clubs for 2 ten full time leagues with promtion and relegation
at the moment possibly
super league
bradford
castleford
catalans
huddersfield
hull fc
leeds
salford
st helens
warrington
wigan

championship
barrow - new stadium
crusaders
harlequins
hull kr
halifax
leigh
widnes
toulose
featherstone - ground improvements
avignon?
with the likes of sheffield, york(new stadium), swinton(new stadium), whitehaven(new stadium), doncasrer and rochdale all close behind.

that's about the biggest load of tosh I've read in a while, 10 team SL would mean a huge Sky reduction

why would it, what do we do just keep increasing super league with no relegation there will be far to many pointless games

no, we kick out Wakey this season and let Widnes in, in 3 years we kick out whoever hasn't kept their promises (Cas?) and promote Halifaax (if they stay in the position they are in), kicking out KR, Quins and Crusaders is just the action of a flat capper with even chips.

I would have liked to have seen fax in. Nice stadium and massive latent support. they were very well supported in the late 80's/early 90's when they had a bit of success. Much more potential than wakey.

Personally I'd kick rovers out but that's just because I don't like them

Indeed, FAX have more potential than Widnes, Betts as aa SL coach, ffs!

but if everyone keeps there promise if you like and cas and wakey both get new stadiums and then theres the possibility of another french club that we need, also i know barrow and whitehaven have both got plans for new grounds and majority would love a cumbrian club. at the moment i agree for deffo just leave as it is but possibly in 3-6 years time the likes of barrow, wakey, cas and then theres halifax and leigh and then french clubs that want super league i think 2 leagues of 10 that are FULLTIME would be great for the sport with promotion and relegation

Can't be any worse than mcdermott and agar

9 home games isn't enough for clubs to survive and then you get into the farce of playing some teams 3 times but not others

there is no appetite for a Cumbrian club, and P&R is not a sustainable model, as has been proven.

I'm sure there are many who would kick you lot out for the same reason, good job the decision won't be made by someone with just the one brain cell

you mean like the decision to not let FC play in a lower league, therebye forcing the merger with Gateshead, now, who made that call, do remind us......

really?

, promtion and relegation is not sustainable at the moment but im talking in 5 year or so years time when hopefully teams have developed more of the field such as cas, wakey ect

are you old enough to remember the Workington experiment which failed miserably?

Wakey will never develop off the field.

Certainly is or Hull would deffo be out

Not me, you deserved to go down and start again instead of being bailed out, but I don't think the decision was taken by an independent tribunal who are assessing written bids and business cases (except for Quins and Crusaders that is)

workington in super league was years ago when as a club they wasnt good enough off the field, do you remeber paris they failed but that hasnt stopped catalan has it. theres a huge passion for a cumbrian side in super league its a hotbed of rugby league where many good players have been developed but amagine what a full time team could do but the reason why its not really happend is because none of the 3 clubs have got good enough stadiums

There is a subtle difference between Paris and Catalan, its like comparing Quins and wigan, one is manufactured to play in a capital city while the other is a team from a long established RL playing area (hence the good attendances)

i know what saying and it want a great example but cumbria espcially west cumbria is a rugby league stronghold and hot bed but we just need 1 of the clubs to get new stadiums and they could be a huge success

there is NO passion in Cumbria, believe me, Whitehave will not go to Workington, Workington will not go to Barrow, and the geography of the place means it's 2 hours from Manchester to either.

fantasy land you live in arliebird, it's not down to stadia.

if you don't believe me, go as on the relevant boards about support for a combined team, the amateur game is strong, but they have no apetite for a SL side