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| Quote ="Kosh"Look again. Washbrook IS in the air. In fact he gets closer to catching the ball than the Saints player ho jumps above him.'"
Thought I'd seen it right, Cod'ead always as been a known apologist for officials even when they are blatantly wrong. That is the problem with our game, if officials are crap other officials (or ex officials) defend them blindly. Lets face it, all of this would have had less discussions if the idiots at the RFL didn't invite controversy by giving a Saints fan a St Helens game to referee.
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| I thought in the first half you were going to put the game beyond us,your offloads in the tackle were killing us but then we got a sniff and scored a try and thats all Saints need to get some confidence.As for the ref well first of all i agree that refs shouldnt be allowed to ref thier hometown team.There were some 50/50 calls the Washbrook one being one of them it certainly divided the comentary team.The Foster knock on however was the right call Foster is bringing the ball into his body,theres no seperation between him and the ball and its then knocked on by a Hull player.
Good entertaining game hower and for you to get 5 points from the Easter period is a good return for you.Good luck for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Thought I'd seen it right, Cod'ead always as been a known apologist for officials even when they are blatantly wrong. That is the problem with our game, if officials are crap other officials (or ex officials) defend them blindly. Lets face it, all of this would have had less discussions if the idiots at the RFL didn't invite controversy by giving a Saints fan a St Helens game to referee.'"
Whether Ganson was crap or not should not have mattered in the slightest: he still made far fewer mistakes than the players we had on the pitch.
But let's take the easy way out and blame the ref for poor decision making by professional athletes and their coach.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"the truth of the matter is this..you were 18 nill up against a weakened saints team. you shouldv'e blown us out of sight.....instead of whinging was it or wasn't it a penalty.'"
I was just about to post something similar!
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| He went to claim the ball for me and shouldn't have been a penalty but fair play to saints they played well in the 2nd half. We're our own worst enemies sometimes and take some dumb options under pressure.
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| Great game to watch. Pen could have gone either way to be honest, something that was said to me whilst watching was the fact washbrook wasnt looking at the ball just jumping for it?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Whether Ganson was crap or not should not have mattered in the slightest: he still made far fewer mistakes than the players we had on the pitch.
But let's take the easy way out and blame the ref for poor decision making by professional athletes and their coach.'"
The fact that we shouldn't have been in a position where a crap call from the ref cost us the game doesn't change the fact that a crap call from the ref cost us the game. Both can be true at the same time.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Great game to watch. Pen could have gone either way to be honest, something that was said to me whilst watching was the fact washbrook wasnt looking at the ball just jumping for it?'"
Whoever said that to you is clearly an idiot. His eyes were on the ball at all times.
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| A further ridiculous penalty Ganson gave was in the first half when Whiting fielded a kick and was then penalised for apparently crossing behind Will Sharp.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Whoever said that to you is clearly an idiot. His eyes were on the ball at all times.'"
That's how I saw it aswell. I've just got home and looked at the incident on Sky + and at no time to he take his eyes off the ball. I think Mr Ganson likes a bit of controversy.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"A further ridiculous penalty Ganson gave was in the first half when Whiting fielded a kick and was then penalised for apparently crossing behind Will Sharp.'"
That was a blatant obstruction. Not really Sharp's fault, more Whitings for deciding to run a line directly behind him.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"That was a blatant obstruction. Not really Sharp's fault, more Whitings for deciding to run a line directly behind him.'"
You are clearly a WUM. It was a kick down field which Sharp was chasing back. Whiting got there first and simply continued his run. Sharp does not have to get out of the way and Whiting is perfectly entitled to run that line.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"That was a blatant obstruction. Not really Sharp's fault, more Whitings for deciding to run a line directly behind him.'"
never an obstruction, the player has no obligation to move out of the way.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You are clearly a WUM. It was a kick down field which Sharp was chasing back. Whiting got there first and simply continued his run. Sharp does not have to get out of the way and Whiting is perfectly entitled to run that line.'"
Agree with this,i was surprised when he gave that one.
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| i thought the Foster knock on he got right, Horne knocked it out of his hand forwards, but the Washbrook challenge was very harsh, the thing is you see those up in the air tackles/challenges every week and they all seem to get pulled up nowadays. but for me it wasnt a penalty.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You are clearly a WUM. It was a kick down field which Sharp was chasing back. Whiting got there first and simply continued his run. Sharp does not have to get out of the way and Whiting is perfectly entitled to run that line.'"
Agreed. What did Ganson expect Whiting to do? Go into reverse and run the open side of Sharp? Now that would have been crossing.
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| Quote ="bigchris"I thought it was a penalty, if Washbrook was really going to try to challenge for the ball he would of jumped, not just run straight into the player.'"
Washy clearly cups his hands to go for the ball. If he'd wanted to tackle the man in the air surely his arms would be round him?
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"the truth of the matter is this..you were 18 nill up against a weakened saints team
you shouldv'e blown us out of sight.....instead of whinging was it or wasn't it a penalty.'"
The thing is bud,it was a pivotal moment,given our way ,we COULD have won.Not complaining too bitterly though,Saints second half comeback was top drawer,and I feel happy we hung on in there.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"A further ridiculous penalty Ganson gave was in the first half when Whiting fielded a kick and was then penalised for apparently crossing behind Will Sharp.'"
what about the one when he penalized us for graham moving off the mark?...with a hull player lying on the floor what did ganson expecthim to do?.... to play the ball standing on the player.
ganson gets right up my nose.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"what about the one when he penalized us for graham moving off the mark?...with a hull player lying on the floor what did ganson expecthim to do?.... to play the ball standing on the player.
ganson gets right up my nose.'"
That was simply evening things up for a shocking decision against Hull in the set before.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"what about the one when he penalized us for graham moving off the mark?...with a hull player lying on the floor what did ganson expecthim to do?.... to play the ball standing on the player.
ganson gets right up my nose.'"
I agree with you on that one Miss Jones.
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| Quote ="deluded pom?"I agree with you on that one Miss Jones.'"
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"what about the one when he penalized us for graham moving off the mark?...with a hull player lying on the floor what did ganson expecthim to do?.... to play the ball standing on the player.
ganson gets right up my nose.'"
But Graham did walk forward. He could have played the ball where he was tackled.
What pi$$es me off is that it happens all the time.
And another thing, watch the non play the ball for Puletuas try. That split second makes ALL the difference.
Again, it's something I've moaned about for years.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Graham did walk forward. He could have played the ball where he was tackled.
What pi$$es me off is that it happens all the time.
And another thing, watch the non play the ball for Puletuas try. That split second makes ALL the difference.
Again, it's something I've moaned about for years.'"
I'm not convinced it was a penalty to Hull but I did comment several times during the game that Saints players were simply stepping over the ball with no attempt to put their foot on it throughout the game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Graham did walk forward. He could have played the ball where he was tackle
the player lying on the floor WAS WHERE HE WAS TACKLED rogues.
don't you be coming on here staring it....wev'e still not forgot that forward pass that gave you the game good friday.
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