Yep we totally switched off at 18-0, withdrew all the big guns and lost our go forward.

Like I said, I think you are completely wrong on that - how the hell is he supposed to compete for the ball? His eyes where on the ball, his arms where out ready to catch the ball and he made no attempt to tackle the player whatsoever.

The rest of your post I completely agree with.

So it’s illegal to catch the ball without both feet in the air?

If he'd got himself airborne, I'd agree he would have been challenging. He didn't.

How?

Did Washbrook touch the ball?

If so how can it be a penalty (for taking him out), he must have been challenging for the ball if he touched it?

I think he probably did challenge for the ball tbh. You Hull fans are wanting the rules to be applied correctly - if Ganson was correct and ruled Washbrook played for the ball, it would have been a penalty to St Helens for offside anyway, so it didn't matter.

I would have too see it again, but I don't think Washbrook touched ball.

We can argue all day about this, the majority 50/50's didn't go our way today, all seems to even itself out in the end.

We tried to defend our lead and lost the intensity and go forward that had proved so successful in the first half.
We looked nervous when in posession and made me nervous when defending.
If we had stuck to the first half game plan than today could have been so very different, when we spread the ball wide, stretched their defence and attacked their right constantly we looked a real threat.
All of that was forgotten in the 2nd half.
Definitely a point lost for me today.
As for Washbrook I thought he was challenging for the ball and rather unlucky but as this thread has proved it is all open to individual interpretation.
Ganson did not help but he can in no way be blamed for our 2nd half performance.

Yep (I'd probably have to see it again too

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Wow someone else who actually watched the game!!!!!

I'm just a Hull fan.
But I always try to take an objective view when watching Hull as it's so easy to get caught up in the emmotion after a game and just shoot off at the hip.
Some people can be be a bit touchy and over defensive some times without digesting the facts first.

OMG



Whiting is one of our most consistent, solid players and because he made a couple of mistakes in todays game you label him cr@p...You my friend no feck all about rugby!! Unbelievable

What a tool!



Thought Whiting had a shocker 2nd half though. Should have let the ball run out into touch and left at least two high balls bounce.

And Horne again had a good game IMO, but still cannot long kick for toffee!

I thought Whiting had a poor game today by his standards, I just don't think he's a fullback.I think his lack of pace really lets him down in that position by the time he retreats to get the ball the opposition team are on top of us.

On Horne I thought he played well today.

Not sure about that, it bounced up and if Meli could have caught it, there would have been no stopping him.

The back 3 all made crucial errors which cost us.

What he should have done - and I know it's easy to say this from the comfort of my sofa - is hold back until Meli took the ball and then tackle him into Row Z. The ball was so close to the line that it wouldn't have taken much to get him in touch.

Your right much easier said than done.

I watched Meli score 4 past us last year, he is super strong.

you keep referring to ganson woould have give a penalty for offside but where are you getting this from?

Like Kosh said, either left it or waited for Meli to take it and push him in touch. Looked like it was going out to me, though.

50/50, cant take the risk, people on here would have gone nuts if he left it Meli reeled the ball in and went under the posts.

As a fullback one of the duties should the ball come your way is to defuse the bomb on the 5th tackle,whiting failed miserably,no speed and a lack of communication with other 2 players,really poor from whiting today

Definatley, along with a lot of 50/50s which didn't end up our way!

Oh I know it's much easier said than done, but I'd have preferred he had tried and failed rather than stand so far in touch and tamely give possession away. Still - easy to look at in hindsight, not so easy at the sharp end.

The first none take is down to Whiting, the second is down to Briscoe. Communication is a two way street. I also think Washbrook plays at the ball. Definitely not a tackle in the air for me.

We twice made the error of letting the ball bounce within our 10 yard line from an attacking kick when we had people in position to catch it. Not going for it shows the opposition that you are afraid of dropping it and they will kick it all game.

Whiting made a mistake on a 50/50 ball when he stood on the line, unlucky, in hindsight he should have let it go or waited for Melli to get it and push him out, but he had to make a split decison.