Managed ok the last 2 games...and 1 was against Warrington who have out-scored teams for fun and Westerman didnt play in that game...so we out-scored them without our better attacking option.

Agreed, the captain and leads from the front.

If anything I would prefer to put him in the back row with Ticks then start him on the bench.

Agreed, all the more reason to play Westerman from the start, maybe bump Fitz into the second row, but he shouldn't start at 13.

1.whiting
2.sharp
3.gleeson
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.horne
7.obst
8.omeley
9.houghton
10.Moa
11.tickle
12.manu
13.fitzgibbon

subs
14.washy
15.westy
16.lauaki
17.Dowes

Great 17, and good bench, but Turner needs a run out. He hasn't played so far over the whole Easter period.

Really don't want to risk changing a winning mix unnecessarily.

That I agree with. The joys of having selection headaches!

btw: our game won't be included in either of the two weekly RL papers. They're both going to press tonight.

On the one hand I'm pleased, because I half expect a tonking, but on the other hand, it seems a bit naff to carry on like our match doesn't exist!

Just thought I'd let you know, just in case you read the RL papers.

It's OK. We can read the Warrington-Hull report all over again. Daresay it'll make much better reading than tomorrow's match...

Possibly, but the coach should never be afraid of changing a winning team.

If Turner misses out tomorrow I hope he'll get a run out in the Cup game.

For definite.

Indeed and Fitz has been fantastic particularly against Wire where the oppo fans applauded him off. Best have him on the pitch I reckon.

Turner's positions are centre, stand off or loose forward.

Yeaman, Gleeson, Horne, Fitzgibbon and Westerman are all way in front of him in selection process. The only possible player he could replace is Washbrook and I think Washy gets the nod because of spelling Houghton.

As for needing a run out, we are playing St Helens. You don't pick players on the basis of needing a run put imho, if thats the case he should have played for the 20s

what about a loan spell at a championsip club for turner?

No point, 1 or 2 injuries and he's in the 17 and with our luck I don't want to tempt fate and leave us short of a certain level cover.

Oh no I agree completely with everything you're saying, I thought Washy played well at Wire and he is not got a sniff of getting in the team in front of Gleeson and Yeamo. As I say, the joys of having selection headaches! Will be first in line if an injury occurs.

dual registration?, id much rather see jordan play at a good championship club then play 20s. i personally like turner but at the moment cant see him getting in the 17

Don't think I've seen it anywhere on here, but I presume we all know that Eastmond is playing:

2. Ade Gardner, 3. Michael Shenton, 4. Sia Soliola, 5. Francis Meli, 7. Kyle Eastmond, 8. Josh Perry, 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham, 11. Tony Puletua, 12. Jon Wilkin, 15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 18. Matty Ashurst, 19. Andrew Dixon, 21. Shaun Magennis, 22. Jamie Foster, 24. Tom Armstrong, 27. Nathan Ashe, 29. Scott Hale, 33. Warren Thompson.

Swap Dowes and Moa and bring in Washy for Turner.

what made you change your mind paul

No Phelps then?

Think Washy deserves to keep his place, maybe would give the opportunity to move Fitz to prop or give him a rest. (This might have been what happened last week, I wasn't there!)

there you go mate

1.whiting
2.sharp
3.gleeson
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.horne
7.obst
8.omeley
9.houghton
10.Moa
11.tickle
12.manu
13.fitzgibbon

subs
14.washy
15.westy
16.lauaki
17.Dowes

If we are going to "rest" our top players it should be on Sunday NOT against St Helens.

Some people make me laugh, they moan about Agar and then suggest we don't play our most experienced player and captain in one of our biggest home games of the season.

rest during the game i think he means

fitz, tickle and houghton play too many minutes for me