They were in response to the reasons why Gleeson left Wigan, the more I hear, the worse the situation appears.

Probably hearing the same things I did. Spoke to a few lads when we were down at Wigan this season and they went into a fair bit of detail the reason Gleeson was being let go. Made sense that he was looking to go to Aus.

Indeed, I'd be interested to ask at the next forum if Gleeson has a clause in his contract that he can go if an offer is made by an NRL club in the closed season.

The guy is bad news, with a capital B.

The title ofteh thread is "Who have we really signed?". I would have thought standee's post was far more relevant that whether or not gleeson is carrying a bit of extra weight

The OP was questioning his appearance and weight rather than his troubles as did most others on the first page.

Also Standee was quoting someone who was also talking about their weight/appearance. Anyway I already done this with Standee.

So you disagree?

depends what you believe about "martin" (apparently if we use his first name it sounds like we're bezzie mates)

I've herd a bit of Gleesons stuff, but i've not yet seen the CCTV footage of him on the rampage

did you see Raynor on the rampage, or Cooke?

I do disagree, yes.

I am not condoning what Ben Cockayne did that night in any way...he was lucky to escape prison, but he isn't the first RL player to 'lose it' on a drunken night out (see Gareth Raynor, Chev Walker, Ryan Bailey, Martin Aspinwall, Stuart Reardon, Leaon Pryce, Chris Bridge etc, etc, etc...and countless others over the years both here and in Australia).

On the other hand, as far as I am aware, Ben Cockayne (or any other Super League player) have never got caught up in situations with the wrong type of people which has resulted in blackmail, death threats and extensive police protection for both them and their family!...

...and that's before we mention excessive drinking, betting scandals and the fact that Gleeson has been released early by his last three clubs!

But, he's a good player, and that's all that counts...apparently!

That one shouuld get you a ban or a deletion of post.

well done

why a ban or deletion?

All that info is available in the press.

From the today's HDM interview combined with what I've heard from reliable sources, I think it's fairly obvious to conclude that Gleeson's problems transcend those normally associated with a professional sportsman.

I don't know how he can play with such external pressures hanging over him - I just hope that Hull FC know what they are doing.

It's mentioned on another forum that both the club and player have an escape clause in the contract at the end of the season. Is this true?

Care to mention why?

Correct me if I am wrong, everything mentioned in that post is public knowledge.

The contents of the various articles are in the public domain, it seems Gleeson has been involved in some unsavoury things, why else would he need Police protection, and have been sacked by 3 previous clubs?

Exactly, cant see the problem with discussing it, drink driving ban, betting on his own side to lose ban, all in the public domain, the bloke makes Tansey look like a choir boy.

no idea what you are laughing at, unless you've accessed your posting history Lee?

I never said they were not. I was simply reminding people to stick to them and not indulge in other stuff. The point stands.

if you say so

Well said.

Unless [iIcecreamman [/i knows something we don't?

there's no point, once Gepetto and Pinocchio get going mate.