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| Quote ="Standee"So, we sack Tansey and then offer Gleeson a contract, is this not shameful double standards?'"
didn't tansey get 3 chance's though in 12 months
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'll take that as a 'no' then.'"
Evidence to prove me wrong?
Or do you believe some posters on here who have said we are the max and have been for years?
That'll be a no then
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not until Gleeson breaches our disciplinary policy as many times as Tansey did and doesn't get sacked..'"
Bingo. New club, away from all his 'troubles'.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"It's a risk offering him a deal but as has been said he's not breached our club's rule. Providing he makes assurances that he won't and then he sticks to those assurances we shouldn't really have a problem. If he breaches the rules i'd expect him to be gone too.'"
But why make (potential) trouble for ourselves? In a squad that's already struggling to achieve what it is capable of, adding a potentially disruptive influence to the mix is a very risky strategy.
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| Quote ="Digby"It must have really annoyed the board when we were fined for breaching it then.'"
2004 and 2005?
6 years ago then, the last time we had a good team
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| why did leeds ship tansey off to oz and why did the oz club ship him back to leeds. then sell him to hull £30,000 and hull sacked him after 3 chance's so i got told, then tansey end up at dewsbury for afew games and now at crusaders for 18 months will he last the 18 months
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| Until he does anything wrong at Hull I am prepared to give him a chance. We have a good set of players now who are not heads and turn up for training in the right state.
I am pretty sure IF he comes to Hull then we will have told him exactly what is expected and I am also sure we would have no problem getting rid of him IF he breaches our rules.
Give him a chance, why not.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"But why make (potential) trouble for ourselves? In a squad that's already struggling to achieve what it is capable of, adding a potentially disruptive influence to the mix is a very risky strategy.'"
The flip side is that when a risky decision comes off the rewards are often greater.
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| Quote ="Standee"So, we sack Tansey and then offer Gleeson a contract, is this not shameful double standards?'"
How many times has Gleeson been in violation of our disciplinary policy ?
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| The way i see it,It's a win-win situation for Hull.
We get a player for a knock-down value of what he would have cost under "normal" circumstances,and have him under a "probation" period til the end of the season...
If he knuckles down,keeps his nose clean and plays well...then great...offer him a new deal at season's end.
if he misbehaves and becomes disruptive,then at season's end..get rid.
I don't see much risk in taking a punt on him...
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| Having read Longy's book he came with a crazy reputation of the beer but we still gave him a chance....if Gleeson shows at least half of his class I would be happy....bring him in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Uffa1964"I was hoping if we signed Gleeson he would be playing centre, no point in signing him just to work in the club shop.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"But why make (potential) trouble for ourselves? In a squad that's already struggling to achieve what it is capable of, adding a potentially disruptive influence to the mix is a very risky strategy.'"
Not signing an available class player at a knockdown price would be an unbearable risk to take IMO.
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| Quote ="WhitewithClover"The way i see it,It's a win-win situation for Hull.
We get a player for a knock-down value of what he would have cost under "normal" circumstances,and have him under a "probation" period til the end of the season...
If he knuckles down,keeps his nose clean and plays well...then great...offer him a new deal at season's end.
if he misbehaves and becomes disruptive,then at season's end..get rid.
I don't see much risk in taking a punt on him...'" I think this is the way we as FC fans have to look at it, especially as we are languishing in an undesirable position in the league at the moment. Had we have been flying high at the top of the league, maybe this decision could seriously have been called into question.
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| Quote ="fcimp"I think this is the way we as FC fans have to look at it, especially as we are languishing in an undesirable position in the league at the moment. Had we have been flying high at the top of the league, maybe this decision could seriously have been called into question.'"
To be honest, we've made an offer, that's all, it culd easily be just the club getting something in the media to detract attention from Agar's double charge and the poor on field performances, we may have made a really derisory offer, who knows.
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| Quote ="techno"Having read Longy's book he came with a crazy reputation of the beer but we still gave him a chance....if Gleeson shows at least half of his class I would be happy....bring him in!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
Wasn't the book released after we'd signed him?
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| He is a quality centre, no quota issues, available and we do need one. There could well be cap issues, but that can and maybe has already been backloaded to next year anyway.
He has had his problems on and off field, he has excess baggage but a good club support could maybe help. I can not see the present set up at FC helping in any way, if anything they have a worse track record then he has in dealing with players problems. Danny Brough had a few "diffiulties" with most of his clubs and he was under John Kear both here and at Wakey would seem to have settled him down. Some players like have the self destruct switch pushed down and they fade away after clubs give up trying. This would be the last house for Gleason which ever SL club he ends up at, he may know that and could turn out well.
His whole career would point to it heading towards the rocks before he even signs. I hope for his sake it works out well for him and the club, whichever club he chooses.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Evidence to prove me wrong?'"
I'm not the one making claims.
Quote ="kingston droolers"Or do you believe some posters on here who have said we are the max and have been for years?
That'll be a no then'"
I believe the evidence that we certainly[i have[/i spent to the full cap - two penalties for spending over it. I'll accept the club's frequent statements that we spend at [ior near[/i the cap until someone offers evidence proving them wrong.
You claim we're not spending the cap. Prove it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not the one making claims.
I believe the evidence that we certainly[i have[/i spent to the full cap - two penalties for spending over it. I'll accept the club's frequent statements that we spend at [ior near[/i the cap until someone offers evidence proving them wrong.
You claim we're not spending the cap. Prove it.'"
I agree, my concern is if we spend that money wisely, which I dont think we have done for many years.
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| Quote ="Standee"I agree, my concern is if we spend that money wisely, which I dont think we have done for many years.'"
exactly,
I've no doubt we've spent the full cap but as you say we clearly haven't spent wisely.
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| It is double standards....however I am at the point of who gives a feck as long as we win a match
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"It is double standards....however I am at the point of who gives a feck as long as we win a match
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Id second that!!
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| What was Gleeson sacked for and have we offered him a contract?
Do the two clubs have different discipline rules, by that I mean would Gleeson have broke ours if he would have committed the same offences at Hull?
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| I think Gleeson is worth a punt. I'm a big Rich Whiting fan but we all know about his lack of pace and that's why I don't think he'll ever be a great centre. If Gleeson had picked that loose ball up he'd have scored and that's something we sorely need in the side at the moment. That said, I'd still find a place for Whiting somewhere in the 17.
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| Gleeson hasn`t signed yet . If he does he comes to Hull FC with a clean slate like Tansey did.
Tansey broke the rules and was shown the door. The same would apply to Gleeson.
A player of his quality should be snapped up by the Club . I`m sick of all the rubbish spouted on here about the Club`s lack of ambition. If Gleeson is available we should go for him.
For trying to sign a player of Gleeson`s ability Hull FC can not be called for lack of ambition.
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