I would go along the line of IF IT WORKS DON'T FIX IT

Keep Horne and Obst at 6 n 7 and Im very critical of Horne as a half back but the partnership is working and they are both getting enormous praise...I'm happy to be proved wrong about Horne. leave him there and if he keeps it up we are the ones benefitting, and I and others won't mind having egg on our faces.

Stick Long on the bench and put him to hooker when we spell Houghton. Tough titties if he don't play 9 or he may not like it. He needs to step up to the mark like Horne and Obst have to get his place back.

Don't break up our best working half back pairing for LONG LONG time (excuse the pun).

HORNE n OBST 80 mins every week at halve.

golden rule of team selection - don't drop players who are in form - obst and horne to stay at 6 and 7 and develop their partnership further

also obst is against his former club and will want to do well.

we'll out muscle them in the forwards and hopefull play some attractive stuff like we did at times against crusaders

hull by 20 (assuming its dry)

1.phelps
2.sharp
3.whiting
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.horne
7.long
8.omeley(hopefully)
9.houghton
10.radders
11.tickle
12.westerman
13.fitzgibbon
subs
14.lauaki
15.moa
16.manu
17.obst
hopefully this is how we are going to line up for wakey if ogre and long are FULLY FIT and if moa is good to go but fingers crossed we could have our first choice 17 with no injuries HOPEFULLY

Any one know the last time we started with our first choice 17? ComeOnYouUll?

1. Phelps
2. Sharp
3. Whiting
4. Yeamo
5. Briscoe
6. Horney
7. Little Sam
8. O'Meley
9. Houghton
10. Radders
11. Fitzgibbon
12. Tickle
13. Westy
14. Big Sam
15. Lauaki
16. Manu
17. Washy

This will never happen but one can dream.

I'd have Long on bench for washy otherwise id be happy with rest. Big sam spellong O Meley, Lauaki spelling radders, Manu spelling whoever in back 3, Long to spell Houghton, and leave our halves to play full game there.

Has Long ever player at hooker?

Manu to spell the back 3? FB and wing?! Long isn't on that list, even so why would he ever play at hooker?

all he has to do is get to dummy half, pass from flood or get out of dummy half and pass on move, its not like he has to learn how to strike against the head,
washy hadn't played their but plays there, so for me if Long can't get to dummy half then he would sit in stand and wait for our halves to lose form and he may have LONG ( sorry for pun )
Obst and Horne playing as well as half back partnership has for a very LONG time, so leave it alone while its working and fix another problem.

I would love Agar to bring on Manu, Moa and Lauaki all at the same time after about 25 mins all three would cause meyhem for any team with tiring legs towards the end of a half.

I'd like Agar to make interchanges based on what is happening during the game, not a pre conceived idea of who should come on and when decided at the kitchen table after training on Thursday (as seems to happen sometimes)

I see where your coming from but its an idea if it doesnt work then dont do it again but if it works they could be devestating

you seen Long play recently?

Yes he has been shocking for the last few games.

and now i get the image of life of brian where brian gets thrown in the dungeon and the bloke hung up says " I hang awake at night dreaming of.... Manu Moa Lauaki all creating mischief"

I'm with you on that one cos i think we rely on too many plodders rather than exploders.

We still dont use our "Exploders" properly imo which is annoying used properly Manu especially would be unplayable.

some of post I wrote went missing so here's rest of it

We'd only spell 1 of back 3 at a time ( or I would) so Manu slots in there.

Covering FB and Wing? He could go in centre with whiting covering FB or wing.

I know Long not on list but he'd be on mine and I don't have any doubt Long can step into hooker at all.

Why would you spell a winger and FB in the first place? And with MANU!? Are you for real?

i wouldnt spell FB or FB them UNLESS THEY GET INJURED or play crap. Your substitute bench needs to cover as many eventuallities as possible, even positions you dont normally change like centre wing full back and even half backs.

if you read it properley it doesn't say manu to FB or wing.

FFS he means second row and loose forward. Is that not obvious?

No mention of second row or loose forward. But mentions of back 3, which I would take as the wingers and FB.

If he meant that Manu COULD cover the centres, then yes he COULD. But I woulnd't having him spelling them at any time, just like I would never have Long spelling Houghton, which was also suggested.

He's quite clearly reffering to the back row.

Then I sincerely apologise, I never read it that way.

There are only 2 back rowers in the pack, so when he said back 3 and "Covering FB and Wing? He could go in centre with whiting covering FB or wing" made me think otherwise.

In 40 years watching, playing and coaching i've never heard anyone refer to full back and wingers as the back 3, so thats a new one on me. I can see them being a back 3 when opposition kick the ball deep from their own half as both wingers sometomes drop back.

It refers to the back 3 in a scrum tommy, ie second rowers and loose forward.

Thanks for the clear up, I apologise for the confusion! Never meant to get mardy, but when I thought you were saying to spell Manu at FB or wing I thought even Agar wouldn't be that crazy!