To have a thread entitled 'Proud', after losing a lead to 12 men is an embarrassment to Hull FC IMO.

People can slate me all they like, sticks and stones and all that!!



I'm certainly not going to apologise for preferring to look at the positives instead of dwelling on the negatives. I have a Grandad very ill in hospital and the threat of redundancy hanging over me so any positives right now I'm grabbing on to lol!

We might look in better shape than we have earlier this season, but that's not a particularly good yardstick to use, IMO. Do we look any better than we did last season when we finished 6th? Do we look like we can realistically improve on that position this year?

I agree that a new coach won't fix it up overnight, but the longer it takes to install a new man, the longer it will take until we start to turn things around and start to become serious contenders. You see, I'm not happy for a club of our standing to just 'compete' in every game. I want us to win most of them as well.

Don't contribute then.

So do I but so do Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire, Rovers, Hudds and others. We have no god given right to be winning most of our games, I think Hull fans have an overinflated opinion of where we should be.

I am happy we are improving andf whilst I still want a new coach from next season I think Agar will have us challenging for the top 6 which is realistically where we are abouts right now with Hudds and Rovers.

I don't need your permission to feel proud of a team that ran their blood to water, thanks. I don't spin anything. I've written to the League Express and been on RH and have been clear that Agar won't win us silverware IMO. I therefore find your suggestion that I'm a blinkered club apologist ridiculous. I say what I see. I put the effort in today to go to Wigan and support my team despite our horrendous record there and uninspiring start to the season. I saw a highly motivated team take the fight to the champions on their own muck and come within a whisker of a point. I saw the effort with my own eyes and felt the team had repaid the effort I had made to go and watch them. So I felt proud today. Deal with it. We need back it up with wins for sure. If not I'll be back on my soapbox.

Cant believe you lost that to be honest. We blew so many chances and handed the game to you on a plate. Thought your defence was good though, the best I have seen us play against so far this season.

Sam Obst is a fantastic signing, had my heart in my mouth everytime he had the ball.

If you defend like that every week you'll win more than you lose.

No. With our off the field structure and the fact that we have the full cap available, we should be competing on a level playing field with the top sides. I accept that we're not at that level, but there's absolutely no good reason we shouldn't be.



Challenging for the top 6? Glory be.

disappointed we lost,but big improvement on last years result at wigan.we need to kick on now,the next few games should be all winnable.wigan away has never been easy for us,even with a top side.

Well said. The reaction to the last two games are a sad indictment of where the current regime has taken us. Relief against Crusaders and "pride" in defeat against 12 men. There is daylight between Hull and 6 other clubs now. This is Agar's team, the team employ Agar's tactics....we are going nowhere. The man is out of his depth.

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Yeah that's what I said, glory!

Nowt wrong with being proud of today's performance

Thats the thing, Agar's teams have done this before, put in a gallant (losing) performance against a top four side and then got beaten (often by Wakey) in an awful performance the next week.

We have a spell of 6 winnable games coming up before going to Warrington. We need at least 4 from 6 to pull ourselves up the table.

Well done to the lads today, 2 points loss to Wigan, no complaints from me, a lot better than I expected...Well done

This kind of thing puts a GAME of rugby into perspective.

We should take a lot out of today's result, albeit it's disappointing to surrender a lead and not take advantage of the sending off and a last minute penalty.

I'm pretty sure most Hull fans would have expected a defeat today and by a far higher margin than two points. We need to bounce back on Friday and the next few games offers the chace to move up the table.

I'm always proud to be a Hull fan even if I'm not always proud of the club.

The thing you are forgetting BB is people are so blinded by their anti Agar thoughts they don't see a spirited and positive performance when it's in front of them. Washbrook knocked on when we had all the momentum behind us, Agar didn't miss the kick at the end to grab a point but yet it's all his fault.

well said Karen!!! here here. some people are just 100% negative no matter what

No: I never said you said glory,[i I[/i said "glory be".

I am not bothered about losing Dan as long as we put the effort in and we did today, and if we carry on with performances like that we will not be too far off imo. However Agar picks the team and Washy is pants and should not even be in the team so I can understand the frustration of some of the fans.

I don't think this causes for a huge over reaction by some but it needs to be asked why we couldn't win when Wigan went down to 12. The discipline is bad and it appears to be what has undone us today that is something which Agar should be responsible for IMO.

Do the player take no responibility in all this? it everything just Agar's fault, then?

Did Agar knock on from the play the ball when we had the momentum? No, did Agar miss the kick that would've got us a draw at the end? No, did Agar try and offload the ball after being in the air from a tackle and knock on? No. You said after the Hudds game you'll support the player and clap them off after the game, the problem is you're being so blinded by wanting Agar gone you're blaming him for players mistakes on the pitch. It's pathetic.

Fantastic performance today from Hull and if they can back that up you'll be a very good team.
Wigan got away with it today plain and simple.

Exactly, we won't be too far off at all IF we perform like that on a regular basis. Basic errors have cost us today rather than the coach, like most I'd be happy to see the back of Agar but today the players lost the game for us rather than Agar.



That's true, Pete. But the blame has to go both ways, Washbrook knocking on from the play the ball after Tomkins had gone and missing a vital kick at goal right at the end can't be blamed on Agar, either. We should've won that game, especially when they went down to 12 but I'd look at the players before Agar.