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| Quote ="garry brindley"They'd see that the writing was on the wall though? Pass sales this year down on last year, now [usome of those that did buy a pass aren't even bothering to attend[/u. The board would realise that pass sales were likely to drop even more significantly next season, I'm not convinced they'd just think 'sod it, this season's money is already in the bank'.'"
I'm from Yorkshire mate - £38 per game (for a gold pass) is not something I can afford to spend and then not use, so I'll still be going.
We're only 3 games into the season, so maybe the board ARE thinking "lets just count this years money at the moment".
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not convinced that treating fellow supporters with contempt just for being a supporter adds anything to your argument TBH.
Makes you look childish and petulant in fact.'"
I am not contemptuous of fellow supporters!!
But if we want change we all need to stick together, we ALL want our club to be successful.
As for been childish and petulant, i think the attitude of 'I have paid for my pass so i am going to use it' is a little more petulant, even though sacrificing one game may make the difference and make the board sit up and do something.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"A boycott Friday night is not about money! its to make a point, a principle! to make the powers that be realise we have had enough, that if things continue the way they are they will be staring at those empty seats for years to come, but like i said it wont happen as there are too many of you bleating ' ive paid so why shouldnt i use it','"
Like I said, I can't afford to not use something I've paid for. Besides, I've just spent £100 on shopping and put it all back on the shelves.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Like I said, I can't afford to not use something I've paid for. Besides, I've just spent £100 on shopping and put it all back on the shelves.
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Would you eat rotten food just because you'd bought it?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Like I said, [uI can't afford to not use something I've paid for.[/u Besides, I've just spent £100 on shopping and put it all back on the shelves.
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Cant weigh that one up mate personelly. Whats going to happen if you dont attend?? you gunna keel over and die??
We are not talking about food or water you have bought, its a bit of paper with your name and seat number, come on wake up.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Cant weigh that one up mate personelly. Whats going to happen if you dont attend?? you gunna keel over and die??
We are not talking about food or water you have bought, its a bit of paper with your name and seat number, come on wake up.'"
Send me a cheque for £38 and I'll sit at home and watch the Sky game
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| Well I'll be there, friendlies aside it's my first game of the year and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. However I guess the fact that I love rugby league and want to spend my Friday night watching the team I support makes me a sheep.
I have been watching Hull since I was 6 years old, and will still be supporting them on the day I die. The Agar thing will take it's course and whether it takes a week or several years for him to go it will just be another chapter in our long history. So in the mean time I will concentrate my efforts on supporting the boys and hoping they can turn it around rather than acting like a petulant child.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I'll be there, friendlies aside it's my first game of the year and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. However I guess the fact that I love rugby league and want to spend my Friday night watching the team I support makes me a sheep.
I have been watching Hull since I was 6 years old, and will still be supporting them on the day I die. The Agar thing will take it's course and whether it takes a week or several years for him to go it will just be another chapter in our long history. So in the mean time I will concentrate my efforts on supporting the boys and hoping they can turn it around rather than acting like a petulant child.'"
Well said Z Head.
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| Quote ="Chris28"But not for this season when people have already paid. The board may not be happy about empty seats, but with money in the bank now, they've no reason to be crying into their G&Ts'"
Can some one clarify for me, when the club announce the attendence is the figure given, just the one recorded via the turnstiles or is it the 'pay @ the gate figure plus the number of season ticket holders? The reason for this question is apart from the empty seats how will the 'penny drop'.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I'll be there, friendlies aside it's my first game of the year and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. However I guess the fact that I love rugby league and want to spend my Friday night watching the team I support makes me a sheep.
I have been watching Hull since I was 6 years old, and will still be supporting them on the day I die. The Agar thing will take it's course and whether it takes a week or several years for him to go it will just be another chapter in our long history. So in the mean time I will concentrate my efforts on supporting the boys and hoping they can turn it around rather than acting like a petulant child.'"
If wanting our club to be succsesful makes me petulant then fair enough. But please tell me, i would love to know, how as a fan can you get your message across to the club that you are not happy with the way 'our' club is been run, managed, coached??
We cant put up banners because that may 'upset the players and put them off'.
We cant boycott a game because that makes us petulant children.
So please enlighten me!!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"If wanting our club to be succsesful makes me petulant then fair enough. But please tell me, i would love to know, how as a fan can you get your message across to the club that you are not happy with the way 'our' club is been run, managed, coached??
We cant put up banners because that may 'upset the players and put them off'.
We cant boycott a game because that makes us petulant children.
So please enlighten me!!'"
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I'll be there, friendlies aside it's my first game of the year and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. However I guess the fact that I love rugby league and want to spend my Friday night watching the team I support makes me a sheep.
I have been watching Hull since I was 6 years old, and will still be supporting them on the day I die. The Agar thing will take it's course and whether it takes a week or several years for him to go it will just be another chapter in our long history. So in the mean time I will concentrate my efforts on supporting the boys and hoping they can turn it around rather than acting like a petulant child.'"
And it's that sort of apathy that the club now rely on. If we all want change then not attending one game as a protest will not kill you, but attending will probably bore you to death.
We need to look at the bigger picture here and just because you don't turn up to support the boys for one game will not make a blind bit of difference to the players but will show the board we have had enough and hopefully that the tide is turnng against them. It will not make you any lesser of a fan.
I have been a Hull fan for many years too but will not attend whilst that clown is in charge as I can't stomach watching how boring and disappointing we are.
I attended Cardiff in hope and expectation and spent the best part of £500 that weekend so don't let your over exhuberance to see your first game cloud the issue here. We need Agar away from our club to progress.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I'll be there, friendlies aside it's my first game of the year and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. However I guess the fact that I love rugby league and want to spend my Friday night watching the team I support makes me a sheep.
I have been watching Hull since I was 6 years old, and will still be supporting them on the day I die. The Agar thing will take it's course and whether it takes a week or several years for him to go it will just be another chapter in our long history. So in the mean time I will concentrate my efforts on supporting the boys and hoping they can turn it around rather than acting like a petulant child.'"
Spot on i am with you.I go to support my team through thick and thin and nothing will ever take that away.
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| We were sat at the other side of the stand to the banner and only noticed it during the 2nd half. Fair play to the lads for having the courage of their convictions. I didn't see the incident at the end of the game with Meley so cannot pass comment on that.
Like many posters have alluded i think the protest that would get the board to sit up and take notice would be one that got less bums on seats.
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| Quote ="tony 7"And it's that sort of apathy that the club now rely on. If we all want change then not attending one game as a protest will not kill you, but attending will probably bore you to death.
We need to look at the bigger picture here and just because you don't turn up to support the boys for one game will not make a blind bit of difference to the players but will show the board we have had enough and hopefully that the tide is turnng against them. It will not make you any lesser of a fan.
I have been a Hull fan for many years too but will not attend whilst that clown is in charge as I can't stomach watching how boring and disappointing we are.
I attended Cardiff in hope and expectation and spent the best part of £500 that weekend so don't let your over exhuberance to see your first game cloud the issue here. We need Agar away from our club to progress.'"
People don't go to games out of apathy. Someone who is apathetic is not likely to go to the effort and expense of attending a live game.
Whether someone wants to attend a game or not is a personal choice, and all this nonsense about 'the bigger picture' is just that - nonsense. Attendances will look after themselves and trying to convince a few people on here to stay away will achieve nothing other than to cause rifts between fans through the use of intemperate language.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Exactly, i agree, anyone who really cares about our club, who really wants change, who wants some success and can see how far we are slipping behind the rest, i urge you to vote with your feet and wallets and not turn out on Friday night, its a small price to pay, to miss one game, its the only way they will sit up and take note, thousands of empty seats. stay at home, boycott Friday night!!'"
Are you a passholder?
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| Quote ="tony 7"And it's that sort of apathy that the club now rely on. '"
In cases like Mr Z Head it's not just apathy, it's martyrdom. It's one thing to just blithely go along and support the team each week disregarding the bigger picture, people can do whatever they like. But when the people who take that position disparage those who do not, implying that they are somehow an inferior type of fan, then it borders on the ridiculous.
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| If passholders dont go that will send a huge message to the board. They've paid for all the home games and still not turning up.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"If wanting our club to be succsesful makes me petulant then fair enough. But please tell me, i would love to know, how as a fan can you get your message across to the club that you are not happy with the way 'our' club is been run, managed, coached??
We cant put up banners because that may 'upset the players and put them off'.
We cant boycott a game because that makes us petulant children.
So please enlighten me!!'"
If hundreds of people send James Rule an email stating their displeasure then he will have to take notice. The players, for all their shortcomings, are obviously putting in the effort and they don't deserve to be playing infront if an empty stadium.
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| Quote ="Kosh"[uPeople don't go to games out of apathy. Someone who is apathetic is not likely to go to the effort and expense of attending a live game.[/u
Whether someone wants to attend a game or not is a personal choice, and all this nonsense about 'the bigger picture' is just that - nonsense. Attendances will look after themselves and trying to convince a few people on here to stay away will achieve nothing other than to cause rifts between fans through the use of intemperate language.'"
You just dont get it do you.
The apathy he speaks of is the 'we will continue to pay our money no matter what dross is served up to us, we dont care that we are getting taken for a ride'.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"You just dont get it do you.
The apathy he speaks of is the 'we will continue to pay our money no matter what dross is served up to us, we dont care that we are getting taken for a ride'.'"
That's not apathy.
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| Quote ="Kosh"People don't go to games out of apathy. Someone who is apathetic is not likely to go to the effort and expense of attending a live game.
Whether someone wants to attend a game or not is a personal choice, and all this nonsense about 'the bigger picture' is just that - nonsense. Attendances will look after themselves and trying to convince a few people on here to stay away will achieve nothing other than to cause rifts between fans through the use of intemperate language.'"
You're missing his point. Plenty of people go watching rugby because they enjoy it/ it's a hobby/ part of their social life/ it's what they've done for years. That's not to say they don't care about the club, far from it, but it can easily mean they are pretty apathetic about how the team is performing because they'll be going regardless.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"You just dont get it do you.
The apathy he speaks of is the 'we will continue to pay our money no matter what dross is served up to us, we dont care that we are getting taken for a ride'.'"
Exactly. I was going to reply to Kosh directly but you beat me too it, thank you.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"In cases like Mr Z Head it's not just apathy, it's martyrdom. It's one thing to just blithely go along and support the team each week disregarding the bigger picture, people can do whatever they like. But when the people who take that position disparage those who do not, implying that they are somehow an inferior type of fan, then it borders on the ridiculous.'"
You are entitled to your opinion and if you want to stage the protest then good luck to you, but I won't be joining in. I am by no means a big Agar fan but I guess I am in the minority that I go because I love the sport and the team, not because I want/expect us to win trophies every year. If we are successul then great, but if not then life goes on. People can call me apathetic or unambitious but tbh I really don't care.
And as for disparaging comments, dont forget that you threw the first stone by referring to people who don't agree with you as sheep.
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| Quote ="Kosh"That's not apathy.
HTH'"
[iApathy[/i (also called impassivity or perfunctoriness) is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion.
Think that sums it up pretty well TBH.
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