Thing is for me we have 3 wins out of the last 11 competeative games and we have started this season just where we left off last season. You can make excuses but the team are just not playing well.

All I read here is the same problems we had all last season have not been addressed in the off season so I dont see how we can progress.

I personally think we look at best average. Only when the chips are down, we try and play and then we look as if we could be half decent. All I know is that this cack is getting me down. Just play rugby and stop fecking about.

It hasn't been for the last 5 years, so I doubt it suddenly will.

I am no SL coach, no really, but why would someone passing themselves off as one intruct his team to let a guy do the long kicking who

a) hasn't played for ages

b) seems to have laser guided accuracy to their winger

c) as ou put it, has been like that for 5 years

d) there are others in the team who can also kick it long

Answers on a post card to Mr R Agar, c/o red halls remidial NVQ level 2 NL1 coaching badge course.

I thought we 'again' played into the oppositions hands: Kicking it down the throat of the fullback/wingers, dropping the ball on our 20metre line, kicking off in the direction of Crabstick, ( did anyone notice Huddersfield kicked to the opposite side to O'Meley?) therefore allowing him to run over defenders at speed.

A monumental amount of effort but no direction as usual.

I think there's actually a simple answer: because the 2 blokes before him did exactly the same thing, and he was there watching.

By any chance, did he happen to line up slightly to their left of the sticks?

Amazing

I thought Crabtree had a great game today when he knocked some of your players over it really picked the Giants up. the one where he left Radford seeing stars was a beauty

Yep, I thought he, and your kicking game vs ours (which was non-existent) were the difference. Even for the opposition he's great to watch when he's in that sort of mood.

He's a fantastic forward who gives his whole week in week out. What annoys me is that we seemed to be picking him out with the kick offs.

Which sums us up perfectly at present.

If Horne and Obst can get a run of games under their belts,then the "direction" will come....

Mind you,that's a moderately-sized "If"

Danny Brough's crossfield kicking was a lesson for us to learn from!

we're just not clinical enough in attack, some of the ovelrlap situations today (and most recent games) have been wasted by the wrong option, or dropping the ball (sharps try against leeds being the exception so far this seaon). points in attack has been the issue for over 3 seasons now. most teams know if they score over 20 points in a game they will most likely beat us

First game back, give him chance.

Thanks for typing that - saved me doing it. Effort was there today, and a bit more "smartness" and better prop rotation might have got us something.

Oh and how much better do we look when playing off the cuff and forgetting the structure of the "gameplan"?

Considering the lay off I thought he did ok (kicking apart) paticually liked him putting a big shot on G Horne on our line causing him to lose the ball!

The biggest difference Horney made for me today, apart from his poor kicking was that he was pushing through looking for the offload at least 2 plays every set, giving the ball carrier more options when taking a drive. We won't come up against many better packs than Hudds today, so if Horney can stay fit this could be a big difference for the rest of the season.

The biggest difference Horney made for me today, apart from his poor kicking was that he was pushing through looking for the offload at least 2 plays every set, giving the ball carrier more options when taking a drive. We won't come up against many better packs than Hudds today, so if Horney can stay fit this could be a big difference for the rest of the season.

Sums our current situation...Now whether we make top 8 will depend on how much longer we have to put up with an incompetent coach.

Bout time. Now only another 2 seasons til we start to use Westerman at 13.

I thought we actually tackled quite well and put in lots of effort but when we leveled we just went back to barging it down the middle and that was a game we was never gonna win with there big pack. We were also like most weeks our worst enemies making far too many unforced errors. I cannot remember the last time we had a fullback who when an high ball goes into the air we we were confident the ball was going to be caught. Crabtree was immense and brough's kicking game killed us.

Has for Horne i thought he did ok for his 1st game back after a long layoff he's certainly a better option than turner. He's also the only support player we have at the club and the only player who looks to push up into the line.

Well said agree completley. Lets hope Horney can stay fit we need him.