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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'd have said that our main problem was defaulting to 5 drives and a kick when we have players missing rather than replacements able to simply fill the gap.'" That is Agars default coaching style anyway the fact he can claim it is due to not having fully fit halves is lucky for him and offers a ready made excuse. I say that because even when we have had Long and Horne playing our playing style is still the boring percentage rugby we see week in week out.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"How is that the opposite Dave?
We've both agreed when players are missing we change our game plan.'"
Sorry mis-understood you. Thought you meant we changed our game plan every week to find one that works if we had a player out.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"That is Agars default coaching style anyway the fact he can claim it is due to not having fully fit halves is lucky for him and offers a ready made excuse. I say that because even when we have had Long and Horne playing our playing style is still the boring percentage rugby we see week in week out.'"
Fair point
I was trying to be positive and give the bloke a chance instead of my usual negative stuff but you've just convinced me in one paragraph why i'm usually negative in the 1st place.... Agar Out!!!
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| Quote ="sanjunien"I watched them 'live' once last season v Catalans and they were awesome - Longy ran the show and I can't think of a bad performance - O'Meley,Whiting and Yeaman especially were immense against a decent Catalans side - can't see any major problems for you this season especially with the addition of Sharp & Westerman - still the same coach tho' ................'"
You wont be very popular on this thread!
Can you tone down the positiveness from a Hull FC point of view please? Maybe claim Catalans 'didnt turn up' or something?
You do finish on a high regards the coach tho'
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"TBF the Catalans game was a rare highlight with a top performance!!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Surprised you can remember!
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I've pieced it back together using about 10 minutes worth of my own memory and then several newspaper match reports!! The one in French in the local press plugged about 40 mins worth of memories.
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| We did play particularly well that day with some expansive stuff thrown in as well - it's just a shame that we didn't see it more often over the course of the season. My own humble opinion is that Rich (and the team) have to deliver consistently this season - the time for talking really is over. I know that every game is tough, the teams are getting closer together, you can't win every week blah, blah, blah, but that doesn't seem to stop the likes of Warrington, Wigan and Saints being consistent.
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| Quote ="Offy"Just been having a conversation about all things Hull FC, with the topic of Richard Agar coming up, which got me to thinking about how he (Agar) has divided the 'Old Faithful' fans.
So what are your thoughts about Rich Agar?
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have always thought agar is out his depth, if you look at record last season we never really beat anyone by a big score once his plan A dosen,t work we usually lose,too predictable. Will see if he can do any better this season,i,ll give him 8 matches and if we arn,t top 3 i think he will go would love to see brian noble as coach loads of experience and won everything in sl
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| If the hand of fate with regards injuries plays fair with us this year we will be having a good crack at all silverware on offer this coming term thats for sure!! and lets be fair we deserve a season relatively free of injuries after the last three dont we!
The threads on here with regards SL will be interesting as the season opens out because I have a feeling he will surprise everyone and earn that further year he is looking at !! lets all hope he does huh, a fit and cocky SL can only be good
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| Here we go again
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| I hope it's his last .
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| Anyone else fed up of the same excuses, injuries!!! Every team will have injuries thats the reason you have squads. Saints didnt do too badly with the injuries they had and made the grand final without there first choice half backs! We will finish at best 6th with the current squad and coaching set up and that is being optimistic.
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| Quote ="Offy"-How many games to save his job?
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| Quote ="HFC8280"Anyone else fed up of the same excuses, injuries!!! Every team will have injuries thats the reason you have squads. Saints didnt do too badly with the injuries they had and made the grand final without there first choice half backs! We will finish at best 6th with the current squad and coaching set up and that is being optimistic.'"
At last someone speaks sense. Injuries are part of the game . It was not injuries that led to Judas leaving and still nearly 4 yrs down the line we haven't replaced him. Its not due to injuries that we are going into our first friendly of the season with a coach quoted as saying he still doesn't really know who our halves are. Ok you can state Horney but come on folks when if ever will he get back to pre injury and illness quality?
I never thought I would say these things but
1) We should have pushed the boat out when Dobson was available. I wonder if Kath and Jimmy regret that miss.
2) Never before have I been so pessimistic about a season.
I just hope they exceed my expectations unlike the last 4 seasons.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"At last someone speaks sense. Injuries are part of the game . It was not injuries that led to Judas leaving and still nearly 4 yrs down the line we haven't replaced him. Its not due to injuries that we are going into our first friendly of the season with a coach quoted as saying he still doesn't really know who our halves are. Ok you can state Horney but come on folks when if ever will he get back to pre injury and illness quality?
I never thought I would say these things but
1) [uWe should have pushed the boat out when Dobson was available. I wonder if Kath and Jimmy regret that miss[/u.
2) Never before have I been so pessimistic about a season.
I just hope they exceed my expectations unlike the last 4 seasons.'"
Oh FFS not that old chestnut.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Oh FFS not that old chestnut.'"
I know...... How many times do these idiots have to be told????
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| For Agar read Roy Hodgson to me the jobs too big for him, decent assistant but not a head coach
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| Quote ="Genehunt1973"For Agar read Roy Hodgson to me the jobs too big for him, decent assistant but not a head coach'"
wow what a assistant mate
finished in the playoffs 1000% better than last year
did the double over saints for the 1st time in eons
had derby sucess apart from one
brought to the club some of the biggest names in world rugby
managed to get the same winger and loose man that half super league were chasing
made a teenager into a world recognised winger
plus so much else its hard to list
wow what an assistant hhuh
if RA becomes only half as sucessful as Roy Hodgson he will be a star mate, look up roy hodgsons CV mate, wikipedia is your friend
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| Quote ="Genehunt1973"For Agar read Roy Hodgson to me the jobs too big for him, decent assistant but not a head coach'"
Do you actually know who Roy Hodgson is????
He's been an assistant at ONE club and managed about 15 teams including the Swiss national side!!
Are you some kind of upset Liverpool fan looking for someone to blame on why you have such a poor squad??
That's the comparison you should be making... We are the RL equivalent to Liverpool, massive club but struggling to correct problems of past management!!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Oh FFS not that old chestnut.'"
I am sorry your honour. I am fully aware of why we did not get him at the time. I just wonder if Kath and Rule had their time again, either for him or any of the other world class super stars the well informed on here think we have been in for, they would have done things differently.
For me the bottom line is that we have never replaced a man who was essential to us at the time and yet wasn't even an international player. All this by a club who are supposed to be "big".
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I am sorry your honour. I am fully aware of why we did not get him at the time. I just wonder if Kath and Rule had their time again, either for him or any of the other world class super stars the well informed on here think we have been in for, they would have done things differently.
For me the bottom line is that we have never replaced a man who was essential to us at the time and yet wasn't even an international player. All this by a club who are supposed to be "big".'"
Are you aware we never got him because we did not have a space on the quota??? You seem to be under the view we never got him because he would have gone against our pay structure, although it may have played a part the fact we had no room on quota was the biggest factor.
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