They have come on? As in they have developed?



Players should develop facets of their game right through to retirement shouldnt they or are they all perfect once at SL level.

Did I? I dont think I said that pal.

I didnt say developed, I think they have progressed nicely due to the experience gained and not necessarily progressed with their skills e.g. we always knew Murrell had a very good passing and kicking game, it didn't need developing(as you say).

Progressed nicely? Experience gained? That is development!

development n. - act of improving by expanding or enlarging or refining.

Ok pal.

Well anyhow, to me I'm not sure how much more development(skills wise)you are going to see from Turner, the lad needs regular games which he is not guaranteed. Suppose we will see how good he is if he manages to secure a starting spot in the centres.

Develop
Definition: grow, progress, unfold, or evolve through a process of evolution, natural growth, differentiation, or a conducive environment; "A flower developed on the branch"; "The country developed into a mighty superpower"; "The embryo develops into a fetus"

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So you have now condemned Craig Hall, for example, to complete failure. He has played over 70 first grade Superleague games and not progressed/developed. What a poor signing on that basis.

Impress..

Moa, Houghton, O'Meley

I thought the levels of consistency from all three was impressive last year, Moa and Houghton should only do better with more game time.

Fail to impress..

Tansey, Westerman, Lauaki

I hope I'm wrong but I think Tansey and Westerman could be terrible influences on each other. I like Lauaki on his good days but his tackling technique for a forward is appalling!

Has had his failings in the past, all be it mostly defensive but playing out of position half the time didn't/wont have helped. With some confidence in him I think he will do well for when he gets his chance.

I agree with all that..our ptb frustates me, however let us not forget how inconsistent the ref are in this area, do you remember I think it was the Wakey game

...we kept getting penalised for not playing it, then the next week a team was on sky did the same and were not penalised



I would like to see the ball move a lot more I believe this is down to our ball players, if we can manage to get Westy, Tansey, Horney and Longy on the pitch together I believe we will see some very tasty rugby.

Need a massive massive season off Horne and Long so my answer is Horne and Long, I hope they impress a lot of people this season and prove a lot of people wrong too. Fitz and Ogre will be better for having a year here as will Hame, just hope he has learnt from a full season here, use his aggression but at the same time use his noggin abit more. Whiting is just Whiting, were ever he plays he will give 100% as will Moa. Tansey IMO needs a big season.

Turner is a very average player,who will be gone in a year or two (hopefully).

turner could have a big season for us.young and underrated.i'm also hoping tansey can silence his critics,though he could win mos and folk would still moan!

I'd like to be impressed with the number and pace of our dummy runners.

Lauaki.

And more understanding in our 3/4's.

I'd Like to be impressed by our coach employing better tactics in attack; more variation of plays (regardless of who is at halfback) I would also like to see him get the players "up" for some of the lesser games.

As has previously been said, the talent IS there, it just hasn't been utilised properly.

I think Sharpe will really impress and have a sneaky feeling Horne might surprise a few people. In the forwards I think Westerman and Hame.

I hope Manu has a few new tricks too, the step is great but running with 4 men on his back all the time is not going to break down defences, the short ball to Yeaman would be more effective.

I thought towards the end of the season Turner had gained alot more confidence and played his best stuff for us.

You mean Horne might surprise a few people by earning what we've been paying him for the last 5 years, I hope you're right Paul.

I think when our pack performs it's the best pack in super league as proved last year because we played on the back of their performancies all year, our halfs out injured one or the other.
so once again if pack performs top six if halfs stay fit who knows.
stand outs for me Manu, Tickle, Fitz and Ogre.

i agree totally.he looked pretty solid as he went on,and is still young and learning.though i am unsure of his best position?probably centre,as westerman will gain the LF role and he isnt good enough to be a 6.

I agree that our pack [ishould[/i be impressive but last year there were very few games that it really bossed and bullied the opposition. There were times when it got pushed around by supposed lesser packs , Crusaders away notably. You'd often come away thinking that the forwards had had good games individually but they hadn't had that dominant effect and I can only put that down to the game plan not using individuals to their best effect and the rotation which often had tired players on the field and fresher ones on the bench. I hope we get it right next year the forwards are as impressive as they ought to be.

What he said.

they were complacent against the welsh and against salford at the willows it was down to handling errors(23!!!).apart from that it was the hb's that let us down,but without long and horne we were always going to struggle at 6 and 7.Berro did a decent job at 7,but that isn't his position,yet people will always comment on what little impact he had there.the same with washy at 6,or turner at 6!! that is not their position,but played there due to injuries.people bang on about an ageing squad,and long in particular,but wire dont seem bothered about the age of brett hodgson?then again tony smith,has signed him,so that will be ok!!!!

Certainly we didn't have the halfbacks and lacked direction but there were numerous times that the forwards were beat in the tackle/collision and didn't go forward in attack and were driven backwards in defence. Probably because they were doing too much or playing the wrong role. Next year used properly as I said it's the pack that could be as impressive as I was hoping they would be a year ago.