I remember after the awards in 2009 something about only being able to drop one grade every three years.

So, Hull, as a Grade A holder, could as a minimum be granted a Grade B licence this time, a Grade B club could only drop to a C - therefore am I right in concluding that the only clubs which could be outed are those with a previous award of a C Grade?

I'm certain that people were saying that our Grade A licence guaranteed us a place for the next 9 years, back in 2009. Or has all this gone out of the window with the new criteria?

I would like to see it extended to 16 clubs with Widnes the shoe in,
I see a problem for Wakefield if both Featherstone and Halifax apply which I'm sure they will.
Has anyone heard anything more about a Scots team?

Haven't the current 14 clubs ruled out a 16 side comp?

Because we are



I'll give you the ground, but if we are thrown out for our finances, so will more than half the existing clubs, leaving a league of about 6 clubs!



Remind me when we finshed 8th. I hardly consider a drop of approx 4% in a recession to be cause for concern on a "Bradford" scale.


I must have slept through an entire season, although I'm sure that's quite possible at the "library"


Indeed. BTW how is Berrigan these days?


This is my favourite bit. Bless.


You could have just posted the last bit of this sentence and saved yourself a lot of time. You are clearly not on speaking terms with "informationa"

Yes!

Grades do not exist anymore, come on keep up!

Would have to be Wakefield for me, not only do they have stadium issues but they are struggling financially as well (I know a lot of clubs are but they seem to be the worst hit). Now personally I like Wakey and would be sad to see them go but unless we get rid of Quins they are the ones that seem most likely to be departing.

Quins will be going nowhere as the RL seem to think that without top flight rugby in the capital the game is as good as dead. The fact is they bring nothing to the game and with the crowds they are pulling in they must also be losing money hand over fist.

Think it will be wakey for me. With all the financial stuff they have to be the ones for me. The only way out for me is that if they swallow their pride and share grounds with cas.It just makes sence. This will be the best all round and would make both clubs financial a lot stronger for the future. If ac milan and inter milan can do that i see no reason why they cant. Its there only hope

light at the end of the tunnel for wakey?? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 115606.stm

light at the end of the tunnel for wakey?? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 115606.stm

Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"light at the end of the tunnel for wakey?? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 115606.stm'" Nice move It'd be funny as fk if the £113million Euro Millions winner was a Wakey fan

Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"light at the end of the tunnel for wakey?? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 115606.stm'" Nice move It'd be funny as fk if the £113million Euro Millions winner was a Wakey fan

what happens if all 3 clubs get the go ahead to build their stadiums ? Will one of the clubs still get relegated ?

One current SL club will definitely lose it's place for the 2012 season.

The franchises are confirmed next July, I believe.

Indeed.
I do belive that if both Wakey and Cas get new stadia one of them will still go.
Infact I think the whole 'we have started a new stadium so you can't say no to us' is a bit of a smokescreen IMHO.
I would imagine the RFL already know who is getting the bullet and I don't imagine a partly build stadium will save them.

On the RFL's site (licensing FAQs):
"New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season."

Considering the applications need to be in by April, you'd imagine clubs need to be well underway with whatever building/redevelopments they promise in the document. Seeing that loads of clubs promised major developments in the April 2008 applications and so far Salford and Saints are the only ones that can demonstrate material progress, the RFL can probably take a stronger stance this time with Widnes ready to be promoted.

I agree and I belive that means Wakey are f...ed.
Plus dont forget that Widnes and Leigh didn't get the YES answer they wanted last time even with new grounds so like I said new grounds IMHO are just a smokescreen.

Yep, chances of them turning round an application approval to starting building works in 5 months are minimal.

The Wakefield planning permission is still not nailed on. There is a large lobby against their development. It is not just going to be a rugby stadium but a large industrial estate/distribution hub that is planned. I guess that if permission is not granted for the industrial site the developers would probably pull out of providing the stadium. At best it is likely to go to a public enquiry which will just delay matters even longer for them and make them the favorites to lose their franchise

I can guarantee you that they aren't. But they also aren't enough on their own.

shame i enjoy going to wakey!!!

My point was that it seems some clubs are banking on a new ground getting them a franchise as that will be enough in otherwords they hope their stadium plans will smokescreen the rest of their franchise applications.
Like you said those looking at it logically can see straight through it but it seems that the clubs we are talking about have almost convinced themselves that a stadium will put everything right.

Someone told me that the council are spending £6m on building rovers a new North stand with some business units in it. Dunno if it's true

Suprised nobody has mentioned Salford.

Still not in the stadium, poor league positions, small crowds etc.

Along with a better youth system Wakefield and Cas are better teams and get better crowds.

Personally for me it would be between Wakey and Salford, but would expect it to be bewteen Cas and Wakey. It's an awful situtaion to be in and an awful system, just bring back promotion and relegation, the new teams have had chance to devlop, and teams are still signing overseas player instead of bringing youth through, this was one of the main reason for franchaises, it isn't really working IMO.

Fecking hope not

Salford have been very sensible in they way they are doing things, unlike other teams who have spent way over their means this season Salford spent roughly half the cap this season and still played reasonably well. They are banking on a new stadium bringing in bigger crowds which will in turn lead them to spend more on the cap and become a competitive team in the SL.