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| Craig Hall will come back to bite us in the , with the correct coaching he will be a top player.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Craig Hall will come back to bite us in the booty, with the correct coaching he will be a top player.'"
No he'll be the same as he was here. Brilliant at times, awefull at next. Another Kevin Penny imo
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| Right. So time will tell? Good luck Craig.
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| I don't think people are giving Agar the credit he deserves here....
People have their own opinions on Agars coaching ability with regards team talks/selection but surely noone can argue with the fact that he sees qualities in a player and bring it out of them.
When he signed his previous contract there were people criticizing Agar but we gave him one last chance... he didn't take it unfortunately!!
How many players has Morgan signed and drastically improved? He's a good tactician but Agar is a better player coach and has a far greater knowledge of younger players!!
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"No he'll be the same as he was here. Brilliant at times, awefull at next. Another Kevin Penny imo'"
same here. IMO he would of been better off getting a deal at somewhere like Castleford where he would off probably been starting centre and kept the position if he made the odd error. Rovers have a few options there next season so any errors will see him dropped and confidence gone.
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| Quote ="Baboon"Right. So time will tell? Good luck Craig.'"
You not gonna back up your claim about Morgan getting more out of him than Agar then??
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| Quote ="Forever FC"IMO he would of been better off getting a deal at somewhere like Castleford where he would off probably been starting centre and kept the position if he made the odd error. Rovers have a few options there next season so any errors will see him dropped and confidence gone.'"
I can agree with that and as sad as I was to see us fail to develop him properly or even to use him effectively, I think he's been badly advised to sign for HKR.
Just who is he going to depose in their current line-up?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I can agree with that and as sad as I was to see us fail to develop him properly or even to use him effectively, I think he's been badly advised to sign for HKR.
Just who is he going to depose in their current line-up?'" he is basically going to be what he was at hull, a backup player to cover injuries i would have thought. With not getting enough game time, making the odd mistake, his confidence will be shot.
When he was at hull alot of fans moaned that he wasnt good enough. At the end of the day, what do you want from a backup player? your never going to get consistancy or a great player otherwise he would be a first teamer
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| Craig signing for the dobbins could come back to haunt us be for me it's just another obsession for sign ex hull players
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| I can`t see where Craig Hall will fit into the HKR first team?
It looks like "Daddy" has had his say on this one!
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"I can`t see where Craig Hall will fit into the HKR first team?
It looks like "Daddy" has had his say on this one!'"
If it ever comes to a shoot-out between David Hall & Morgan, I know who my money'll be on
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| Has a person C Hall is a nice kid,,Now the but He has not got the body strength to tackle head on .He his to tall ..He can tackle from the side and rear ..If a player run at him head on he as no chance of bringing that player down ..To be a good tackler you learn that at a young age and you don't have to have any fear you just commit yourself to the tackle ..I don't buy how good Morgan is It's up to the person himself how good they are ..C Hall flair is his attacking abilities..
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| Quote ="Standee"the simple fact is that Hall is a legend in his own mind'" Ridiculous comment. If anything he has no confidence in himself anymore.
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| summed it up perfect for me on sky text
airlie bird REJECT signs for city rivals
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"You not gonna back up your claim about Morgan getting more out of him than Agar then??'"
No. Craig will do it.
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| Quote ="Forever FC"Quote ="Sebasteeno"No he'll be the same as he was here. Brilliant at times, awefull at next. Another Kevin Penny imo'"
same here. IMO he would of been better off getting a deal at somewhere like Castleford where he would off probably been starting centre and kept the position if he made the odd error. Rovers have a few options there next season so any errors will see him dropped and confidence gone.'" Quote ="cod'ead"Quote ="Forever FC"IMO he would of been better off getting a deal at somewhere like Castleford where he would off probably been starting centre and kept the position if he made the odd error. Rovers have a few options there next season so any errors will see him dropped and confidence gone.'"
I can agree with that and as sad as I was to see us fail to develop him properly or even to use him effectively, I think he's been badly advised to sign for HKR.
Just who is he going to depose in their current line-up?'"
I have to say that I think Craig Hall would have been better off going to a club out of the city as I honestly think he will be crucified by the Rovers supporters when he makes mistakes that then shatters his confidence as it was bad enough with Hull fans, let alone getting told to F' off back to Hull FC etc, as it would most likely be if it were the other way around.
Craig on his day can be a game breaker but he just doesnt seem to have the confidence or fire in him to do it and a regular basis.
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| Anybody who truly believes that Craig Hall's performances whilst in a Hull shirt was only down to Agar is just silly imo. By his own admission he was given enough opportunities at Hull Fc and wasn't consistent enough. I wish him well at Rovers and hope he finds that consistency to make him a first team regular.
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| Quote ="Baboon"No. Craig will do it.'"
Good answer, Craig!!
I actually hope he does. Shame it's Rovers but i genuinely do!!
My only point was that Morgan isn't this god that people think he is.
Players improved under Morgan;
Watts - Excellent, wish we'd have signed him.
Fox - Good player, not exceptional but v.good.
Player who haven't or have gone backwards;
Briscoe - I know he's played for England (before i get lynched) but he's not as good as when he was at FC.
Cooke - Not Morgan's fault but still part of this point.
Wheeldon - Absolutely no different to the player we released.
Hodgson - Not looked like the prospect we made him out to be, Morgan not improved him at all.
Mariano - Massive prospect, bigged up by Morgan as the next big thing. Now at Wakey.
Colbon - Was good at Wigan, V.Average now.
I'anson - The next big thing, Gone!!
Can't really think of any more but i'm open to suggestions.
Agar's improved players;
Briscoe - The obvious one
Houghton - Quality
Turner - Has shown enough to look like a quality player, a very good spot.
Backwards;
Tommy Lee - P155 head, club got rid and rightly so.
Can't think of anymore, i maybe biased but have not tried to be, so please add/remove to your liking. This is just my opinion.
I'm just saying that, IMO, Morgan is no better a man manager than Agar, in fact it's more than a little bit the other way round!
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| Thats Brilliant, Justin has taken all of these players backwards yet we've improved every season he has been in charge
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Thats Brilliant, Justin has taken all of these players backwards yet we've improved every season he has been in charge'"
I'm not trying to pick points Philb, Morgan is a fantastic tactician he, normally, gets his selection and gameplan spot on on matchdays and can certainly attract a player to the club. I'm just saying he's not as good with the younger players. There is no doubt that Morgan is far superior to Agar at picking/getting the best out of the aussies, for example; Galea who i rate very highly and you cannot argue with Vella's achievements. Even James Webster. I'm not trying to bash Morgan, my point was only regarding the young english players. Agar has a far greater knowledge of the english game and can get more out of the young players, if he doesn't see the potential/improvement ratio then he gets rid. Can you honestly tell me any he's got wrong??
Please try to read my points as a neutral and correct me where i'm wrong!
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| With the exception of Jordan Turner which young english players has Agar signed???
It's not as though he's flooded the Hull side with young players either through the academy or from other clubs who have gone on to play game after game is it?
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| Washbrook
Houghton
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Hall
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All debuted before he took charge remember
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