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| can hull and lee apply against it
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Got what the thug deserved
'" First sending off in 13 years and you call him a thug ...Remind People what Bailey did time for and how long did he wear a tag
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"can hull and lee apply against it'"
I believe that they can indeed appeal against it.
Whether they will or not I don't know. Personally I wouldn't bother rather than risk having it increased (if indeed that is a risk).
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| Well I think they should appeal.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Very grown up. Is 73 your IQ?'"
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| I have said what I thought about the incident, that the sending off was correct and now Radford gets a match ban. The ban for throwing punches and causing damage deserves the ban IMO(was it Fielden only a few weeks back who got a similar punishment for a similar offence), but also I think the panel should have taken his former record into consideration and a verdict of SOS been handed out.
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| At least Dowes is fresh to replace him.
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| Where has this info come from? There's nothing on the RFL website yet.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Where has this info come from? There's nothing on the RFL website yet.'"
Just been on Radio Humberside.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Where has this info come from? There's nothing on the RFL website yet.'"
[url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6363921,00.htmland also.[/url
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Quote ="Kosh"Where has this info come from? There's nothing on the RFL website yet.'"
Try 1st page.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 21,00.html
Oh and this may help too.
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Try 1st page.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 21,00.html
Oh and this may help too.
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| Quote ="scarrie"[url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6363921,00.htmland also.[/url'"
Ta.
It'll be interesting to read the reason for hitting Radford with the maximum available penalty given his previous impeccable record.
Farcical.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Ta.
It'll be interesting to read the reason for hitting Radford with the maximum available penalty given his previous impeccable record.
Farcical.'"
Quite.
It's not like they've set a precedent this season for similar incidents.
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| We have been royally fcked by the RFL and i hope we appeal this....we have cover for him if the appeal fails so may as well have a go at them.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Quite.
It's not like they've set a precedent this season for similar incidents.'"
Mind you, anyone who can watch video of the incident and then claim that Bailey's repeated elbow strikes to Radford's head were 'accidental' is either blind or stupid. Possibly both.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We have been royally fcked by the RFL and i hope we appeal this....we have cover for him if the appeal fails so may as well have a go at them.'"
One of the few occasions where it would be worth a shot. Not convinced we'd get anywhere, mind.
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| It would also be interesting to compare Radford's disciplinary record with other SL forwards who have played a similar number of matches eg. Fielden, Bailey, Morley, Peacock, Lynch, Korkidas.
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| should have been three matchwes and £1000 for what he did
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| No surprise whatsoever.
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| Lets see what "The Most Flattened Man In Super League" gets away with against Wigan...
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| Grade A offence carries a maximum 1 match ban (apart from in this case where we've copped an almost 2 match ban, 2 places in the league, and 1 of the vital 2 bites at the play-off cherry.... but I digress) so Hull MUST appeal - nothing to lose.
I'm certain the RFL can't "upgrade" the level of the case retrospectively once the it's been heard to a Grade B offence carrying a higher number of match bans, so the only way Hull could lose is if the fine is increased. A small price to pay to have Radford against Vella and Rovers.
Incidentally, can we appeal the fact that Bailey wasn't cited at all?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="scarrie"Quite.
It's not like they've set a precedent this season for similar incidents.'"
Mind you, anyone who can watch video of the incident and then claim that Bailey's repeated elbow strikes to Radford's head were 'accidental' is either blind or stupid. Possibly both.'"
They dont even see the elbow in the video as they state it was Baileys 'forearm made unintentional contact with opponent' .
The RFL and the Disciplinary panel have yet again shown that it not what you do but who you are (or play for) when it comes to disciplinaries. What a total joke and mockery, mind you what should we expect from the idiots running (more like ruining) the game.
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| Once they failed to cite Bailey Radders was screwed. That's basically saying Bailey was innocent and Lee was the guilty aggressor. There is no point in appealing as basically Lee's actions were the actions of a guilty man. We can argue about why he did it but clearly the powerful ones in the know have landed the blame totally at Lee's feet.
The more I see the incident and think about it, I find it totally out of character for Lee. He can and has handled himself in the past, but I have never seen him lose it like that before. The RFL should have asked themselves why that was.
I strongly believe the rest will do him good and he will be fresh for Wire the following week when we will need him to upset the form book.
Lee's biggest fault for me was that he never finished the coward off. Maybe next time knowing what he knows now he will.
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| Quote ="FCTID"Out of interest, did Wellens get away with his 2 forearms smashes?'"
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| Quote ="HFC Yorkie"I'm far from an expert on these hearings, so does anyone know who represents the player and what other evidence can be brought in mitigation? The reason I ask is that everyone seems to be aware of all the other similar instances to Radders' situation and the associated inconsistencies and yet these are obviously overlooked. This can only be for two reasons - either the procedures do not allow for such evidence to be brought forward, or whoever represented the player didn't use them strongly enough to make a case.
That said I've just remembered a third, and more likely scenario...that whilst Rugby League has a cracking product on the pitch it is administered by a set of plonkers whose history of making poor and inconsistent decisions beggars belief! (Generally speaking!)'"
i agree fully with you, most fans are left baffled week in, week out by decisions of the disciplinary and the refs. watch any match live or on tv and you are left in total amazement at decisions that are made. one team gets penalised for any offence , whilst the other team do the same and get a way with it.
trying to understand the disciplinary committee would take the combine minds of worlds cleverest individuals. below are two players cited this week.
Punching in 34th minute (Dobson)
Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Player reacts to tackle from opponent, throws ball at opponent but no punches, referee caution appropriate
he is charged with punching, but then it is said that he didn't punch anyone !!!
Use of forearm in 10th minute (Radford)
Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Player attempts to regain feet and play the ball, forearm makes unintentional contact with opponent, provokes opponent but no misconduct
i wont comment to much on this further to say almost everyone saw his elbow strike radford, but the committee didn't.
these decisions can been seen weekly on the rfl site.
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