Just seen someone say he failed a medical with us , anyone know more on this ?

Wasn't another 3 rounds with Radford was it?

Some on here think Tom Briscoe would be only worth around £75k if he was to become available and around the same for Westerman who are both now experienced SL players who have had a taste of the internatioal scene. Damn, he aint anywhere near that good lol

Don't think so Karl. Once the deal had been agreed with Hull he had to inform Wigan and at that point they had a rethink.

I thought a double amputation was the only grounds for failing a medical at Hull.

what happened was he had discussed at length a very good deal with us however he was very honest and said if Wigan even come close to FCs deal he would prefare to stay at Wigan as he has enjoyed it so much and the club had helped him personally so much he wanted to repay that and also the incoming players meant it was an exciting time to be at Wigan, however if Wigan didnt play ball then his first stop was the KC to play for us!!
As is now open news Wigan matched our deal .
good luck to him at least he was honest about it all from the off, wish him well and must admit he is a likeable player in a decent vein of form and playing for a very good club.

Oliver Wilkes

Having missed out on Fielden, LMS, Hargreaves and god knows who else, are there any good British props available?

Or to put it another way, are there any available who are better than Dowes?

nick scuton- obviously a fee would have to be involved hes still contracted but with bradfords finalcial problems a decent fee i feel would be accepted, very good english prop still young better then radders and dowes and hes already knows a bit about the club.i would be very happy with this signing, cant think of any other ooc english props that are good enough so we may have to look at getting players with a fee involved. another player jake emmit been rumoured to be signing for cas but again very young english and going from what saints and cas fans think of him he looks a good player already.

bradford won't let scruton go,surely!!!

Our front row is now shafted for next season. Go with what we have which isn't enough or gives Dowes another contract who isn't good enough !!



Not looking very exciting for next season at all !

shafted is a strong word IMO



what's wrong with...

8. o'meley/radders
9. berro/houghton
10.moa/lauaki
11.fitz/manu
12.tickle/burnett
13.washbrook/whiting

and [uperhaps [/udowes on 1 yr contract

FWIW i'd like to see washbrook get alot more game time at LF since he will get better with consistent games there. that means lauaki or fitz to front row which ain't so bad

i expect whiting to play utility in the backs again next season but i'd rather see him at 13 in the absence of washbrook. If we are short on forwards for 2011 then if i was Agar i would be preparing Whiting for LF or 2nd row

i seriously doubt we will sign Rangi Chase so maybe we should get the cash out for Scruton who would be a good signing IMO

I really do hope that Agar has a couple of big props in mind because otherwise we are standing still while the teams above us are moving further away (Saints, Wigan, Hudds) Even rovers will have stronger front row options than us as it stands.

We could move Lauaki up to frontrow but we still need another quality prop and please not Dowes or Wheeldon FFS !!

I think you're overhamming the situation somewhat.

We currently have Radford, O'Meley and Moa signed on. We can move one or both of Fitz or Lauaki to prop if needs be. If there is nobody else out there then I'd not be against Dowes getting a 1 year deal.

I think if Calderwood does now stay we could have Calders, Briscoe, Lynne, Sharp, Yeaman, Berro & Turner to cover the backs so i see Whiting moving in to the 2nd row and only being used in the backs in an emergency. Whiting would replace Lauaki who would move up to prop.

Front row: Radford, O'Meley, Moa, Lauaki & Dowes(maybe)
2nd Row: Tickle, Manu, Whiting, Fitzgibbon & Burnett
LF: Washbrook & Whiting
Hooker: Houghton & McShane(hopefully, if a loan move is possible).

what about scotty logan is he ooc in aussy hes gt british passport ,and this lad from union he could make contrbution with a good off season he looked a big lump

Oliver Wilkes what?

scott logan would be a good signing would certainly add some size and a good replacement for dowes

I thought he was retiring this season.

you could be right mate ,but he went well for us and played some good footy back in the nrl he would be a good stop gap ,and like the other poster said better than dowes he bust a tackle did scott

Would he come back anyway?

I would doubt it.

Same here !

He may have a british passport but would have needed to have trained at a british club for 3 years before he was 18 to be classed as fed trained so unless Berro comes off the quota, this is a no go from the start.

Scott Logan despite his British passport = non Fed trained player, which as it stands we sont have a spot for.

If we did I wouldn't waste it on a prop.