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| Quote ="madoggy"wewll essentailly thats what it amounts to if we dont risk him, to lose him with a re accurance would be a nightmare, and as for consistency , well you only have to look at this seasons performances to see that we struggle to find it, the amount of moaning that almost all of us have done is as a result of this'"
But if we always worry about recurring injuries then we'll never play anyone coming back from injury, if Long is fit, he plays, it's as simple as that.
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| Quote ="Standee"But if we always worry about recurring injuries then we'll never play anyone coming back from injury, if Long is fit, he plays, it's as simple as that.'" if fit i would play him every week
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| They need to be back for the leeds game because its really all down to that game, Win leeds were 4th lose were 5th, 6th or 7th,
If we lose to wire that is.
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From the wording of this article I don't think he'll make the game on Friday;
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=6611
Quote It now means Tansey will face a suspension to add to Hull’s current injury woes as fellow play makers Sean Long and Richard Horne remain sidelined.'"
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From the wording of this article I don't think he'll make the game on Friday;
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=6611
Quote It now means Tansey will face a suspension to add to Hull’s current injury woes as fellow play makers Sean Long and Richard Horne remain sidelined.'"
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| If long is fit he needs to play. We can't get into the situation we had with head and dykes again
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If long is fit he needs to play. We can't get into the situation we had with head and dykes again'"
Agreed. Gets a week off afterwards anyway.
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| I just have a feeling that we may see one or two others out of the Wire game. Maybe a rest for Fitz's injury? Freshen Tickle up . No Tansey , Long or Horne. Could argue it both ways, put the kids in and let them have a crack at a possibly distracted Wire. If they do OK it's a moral victory , if we get hammered it's only to be expected and no reflection on our soon to be full strength side.
Personally I think if players are fit , they play and we shouldn't be in the business of picking and choosing (earmarking) certain games but I can see it happening.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"I just have a feeling that we may see one or two others out of the Wire game. Maybe a rest for Fitz's injury? Freshen Tickle up . No Tansey , Long or Horne. Could argue it both ways, put the kids in and let them have a crack at a possibly distracted Wire. If they do OK it's a moral victory , if we get hammered it's only to be expected and no reflection on our soon to be full strength side.
Personally I think if players are fit , they play and we shouldn't be in the business of picking and choosing (earmarking) certain games but I can see it happening.'"
Listening to agar after the game on Friday he was playing down the warrington game as a "gimme" and sounds like he is focusing on the leeds game
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Listening to agar after the game on Friday he was playing down the warrington game as a "gimme" and sounds like he is focusing on the leeds game'" If he is then he's an idiot, we need to be focused on the wire game and not looking any further than that.
If Long can play then he should play, any fatigue and he gets a week off after it, we need to make sure of 5th spot before we start looking at securing 4th.
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| Do you really think agars not bothered about the wire games? If Leeds lose and we win we finish above them anyway.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If he is then he's an idiot, we need to be focused on the wire game and not looking any further than that.
If Long can play then he should play, any fatigue and he gets a week off after it, we need to make sure of 5th spot before we start looking at securing 4th.'"
absolute sense!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If he is then he's an idiot, we need to be focused on the wire game and not looking any further than that.
If Long can play then he should play, any fatigue and he gets a week off after it, we need to make sure of 5th spot before we start looking at securing 4th.'"
I don't think Agar will do that, the point with Long is not to save him for the Leeds game but whether or not the Wire game is a week too soon for his injury, that should be the main concern.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't think Agar will do that, the point with Long is not to save him for the Leeds game but whether or not the Wire game is a week too soon for his injury, that should be the main concern.'"
Ultimately if Long is ready he'll play, if not he wont be risked. Doesnt matter who the opposition is.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Ultimately if Long is ready he'll play, if not he wont be risked. Doesnt matter who the opposition is.'"
Correct and the I think the Wire game might be too soon, he was back in the gym last week and is one week enough? If there is a risk then he might aswell get some more training in and be ready for Leeds and the playoffs.
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| I'd make sure he's 100%,we'll need him for the play offs.
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| Quote ="BESTY"I'd make sure he's 100%,we'll need him for the play offs.'"
We agree, but if he's 100% for Friday v Wire he has to play.
He needs at least 1 or 2 games under his belt for match sharpness before the playoffs if he's fit.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"We agree, but if he's 100% for Friday v Wire he has to play.
He needs at least 1 or 2 games under his belt for match sharpness before the playoffs if he's fit.'"
I agree if the player is 100% fit to play then he should play and that should be across the board.
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| If Long plays, he'll win the game for you in the last minute (if he doesn't get injured before then).
Sean Long = our nemesis.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"If Long plays, he'll win the game for you in the last minute (if he doesn't get injured before then).
Sean Long = our nemesis.'"
So is the whole of St Helens really though. Id love to have longy back but would rather have him 110% for Leeds and hopefully the rest of the play off's.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If he is then he's an idiot, we need to be focused on the wire game and not looking any further than that.
If Long can play then he should play, any fatigue and he gets a week off after it, we need to make sure of 5th spot before we start looking at securing 4th.'"
The question was something around playing the 2 CC finalists the week before and the week after the final. He said that he didn't think the week before the final was a particular factor but that the week after is a massively difficult game as we've found out in recent years. He wasn't suggesting that the wire game wasn't winnable, just that it wasn't any easier than it would be any other week, whereas he intimated the leeds game was a big ask for leeds.
FWIW, I think we should go out early at wire and bang a few heads and make them start to worry about getting injured and hopefully may make them back off a bit. It's what basil did to us in 2005 when he brought wigan to the KC the week before the final
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"FWIW, I think we should go out early at wire and bang a few heads and make them start to worry about getting injured and hopefully may make them back off a bit. It's what basil did to us in 2005 when he brought wigan to the KC the week before the final'"
Agree with that Jake. I'd rather go into the week off with 2 points already in our pockets.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Agree with that Jake. I'd rather go into the week off with 2 points already in our pockets.'"
And confidence from an away win at wire
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
FWIW, I think we should go out early at wire and bang a few heads and make them start to worry about getting injured and hopefully may make them back off a bit. It's what basil did to us in 2005 when he brought wigan to the KC the week before the final'"
That would be my exact tactic too. If any of them are worrying about Wembley the following week then we would soon find out. We have to make it as physical as possible.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That would be my exact tactic too. If any of them are worrying about Wembley the following week then we would soon find out. We have to make it as physical as possible.'"
Paul, one thing is certain the boys are VERY focussed on the wire game, the club want points in hand not a maybe and what if game against leeds!!
Warrington will be sent out with a message in their ears of "your playing for your wembley place" so expect Morley and co to target Omeley early on, however Fitz knows Adrian as a personal friend so that should be a fun contest but we will take em on thats for sure, will we win???? I think we can and were due a good one arent we
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Paul, one thing is certain the boys are VERY focussed on the wire game, the club want points in hand not a maybe and what if game against leeds!!
Warrington will be sent out with a message in their ears of "your playing for your wembley place" so expect Morley and co to target Omeley early on, however Fitz knows Adrian as a personal friend so that should be a fun contest but we will take em on thats for sure, will we win???? I think we can and were due a good one arent we'"
We certainly need a good one, an away win against a top side would be a huge boost in confidence. The key man is Briers, watch the tries from the Wakey game and almost everything goes through him. We should be looking to win if we are serious about doing well in the playoffs and possibly doing well in the GF.
Lets hope they are all up for it!
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