Iv seen them both play a few times lee williams is no were near ready for the first team and nicklas would maybe be ok but would be massive gamble for derby and could ruin him if went badly

I.M.O it should be Horne at SH, Tansey at SO and whiting at FB.
Tansey is a talented player but far too unpredictable to play at FB. Horne is still a class player and Whiting is as solid as a rock.

Tansey and Webster

could also make him too if he has a blinder too

Whiting
Calders/Hall
Turner
Yeaman
Briscoe
WASHBROOK **
TANSEY

**[No other option. Whiting is at FB, Berrigan not up to it, Horne clearly not ready to play, Turner doing well at centre and has no replacement

Cusack and Moa please

Horne and Tansey. Washbrook to loose man, Whiting to full back, Berrigan on the next flight back to Australia.

Could Sir Tommy Lee come back ?hes just as Sh!te as washbrook etc and why cant we find the floor when we put the kick in on last tackle after our 5 plods,it amazes me how we can find the winger or fullback on the full everytime nearly,if we turn up with no passion and belief we might as well play johnny whitely and tony dean there

because we will get out enthused if nothing else

Tansey and Berro

I just don't think that (for the derby) whoever we put with Horne will do a job.
Horne is just not yet ready for this game. As much as I like Horne, I would not even have him on the bench for this game. Even if he ups his game, he is far to predictable, were as Tansey is more off the cuff. Whiting full back. Washy on the bench or at loose if Fitz not fit.

Even if Fitzy is fit, I would contemplate Washy at 13, and using Fitz as an out and out forward in place of Cusack.

Amazed at the support for Horne, he hasn't played a good game for 3 years! are people basing their suggestions on loyalty/nostalgia?

I selected Tansey/Washbrook, but to be honest all the options are pretty dire.

How dare you come on here a slag off Sir Richard Horne!!!

Bit harsh! He wasn't the worst last night

I've gone for Tansey and Turner but wonder if me and Mrs B might be better option

Horne had a few very good games in the early stages of this season. Short memories on here, some folk. Confidence was back up and thats what richard needs. Wigan away when we were poor, horne was the only player who wigan had to think about. A bad R. Horne is 10 times the player Danny Washbrook will ever be. Ask yourself the following questions about playing Washbrook - how many breaks does he make and how many tries does he score. Decent NL1 player and thats it. Has to go with Whiting, Tansey, Horne at 1,6 and 7 - maybe even move them around.

What I don't understand is for the first half at Bradford the players looked like they all knew where they were supposed to be, we had players running angles and generally looking organised. Where the hell was that last night? Are Bradford worse than we thought?

Couldn't agree more. Talk about dire !!



Whichever halfback combo (stretching the phrase to the maximum) we are in for a dire performance where we would normally hope to win the wrestle and play down the middle but we're not going to put out a pack capable of that either.

I don't think it is...... If Horne wasn't the worst, it was Berro but certainly those 2....

And it's not about short memories, good performances are what i expect from one of our highest earners and most experienced players. Richard Horne is average or worse 99% of the time and good the other 1%, NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! There's far too much sentiment on here, i honestly can't think of a more overrated member of our squad, maybe even even the whole of superleague!!

Horne and Berrigan is a huge amount of our salary spent on two players who are rarely better than average and very often worse. A major reason why our squad doesn't compare to the best ones in SL.

I call the left side. I was always last to be picked in games as I can't throw, catch or run, but I could create some space for Manu and Yeamo by taking my top off as a diversionary tactic.

Stand by the phone - you might be starting on Thursday!

would you be wearing your heals too?

Sounds like a better option than those above !!!

Horne and Berrigan for me with Washy on the bench, Calders has to play on the wing.

Sam Moa and Peter Cusack.

play players in the position we signed them in.

calderwood back on the wing.
leave tansey at fullback where he is most dangerous.
horne and whiting halfbacks as horne is first choice and whiting is our utility back.

IMO players playing in incorrect positions is further unbalancing an unbalanced side