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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Far too many of these displays over the last 26 months though, Paul.
You can count on one hand the number of games we have been oustanding since Agar took over but we regularly turn out rubbish like we saw tonight.
If Agar isn't the common denominator, what is?'"
I am not an Agar fan but we are 4th and should finish in the 6. Slag him all you want but we have improved this season, still not the finished article by a long shot but we are getting better.
Did Agar miss the 23 tackles tonight? Did he tell the kickers to kick high and down the throat of the fullback all night? |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Right then lets do as you say and sack the indefensible.
Fitz was crap so lets get shut, Tansey aswell, Manu was awful tongiht so he needs to go.
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fickle fans they are |
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Far too many of these displays over the last 26 months though, Paul.
You can count on one hand the number of games we have been oustanding since Agar took over but we regularly turn out rubbish like we saw tonight.
If Agar isn't the common denominator, what is?'"
I'm looking forward to Paul's answer... |
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| Quote ="ryano"How does that song go? "Old fickle, in any kind of fair-weather?" You're in 4th you miserable buggers! Wanna swap places?
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radical suggestion, fook the past, resign Cooke and reignite Horne and Yeaman, stop signing e Aussies who are past their best like Berrigan and Cusack and please, please get a new Coach not a west yorkshire wannabe aussie
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Fitz and Manu were really poor tonight by the standards but they should not be sacked eh. Just Agar, all his fault but we are 4th because of the players and not the coach.
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I never once during the game thought that I saw a player that wasn't pulling his weight. I did think I saw someone in the stands looking bereft of ideas though (clue - he was stood next to a ginger bloke).
Agar should change his job title to HR Manager because he clearly does not believe he can COACH these players. |
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Far too many of these displays over the last 26 months though, Paul.
You can count on one hand the number of games we have been oustanding since Agar took over but we regularly turn out rubbish like we saw tonight.
If Agar isn't the common denominator, what is?'"
Agree with that. Some of his decisions were a joke tonight! Horne as interchange hooker?! Is he taking the p1$$? bringing Turner off and bringing Hall on? What a waste of an interchange!! We were p1$$ poor all over the pitch but some of Agars decisions are just baffling! |
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"I never once during the game thought that I saw a player that wasn't pulling his weight. I did think I saw someone in the stands looking bereft of ideas though (clue - he was stood next to a ginger bloke).
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You watched a different game then. |
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I started an Agar Out thread from tradition, but I truly believe it should happen.
Week after week, I watch us play and genuinely cannot believe we are 4th. We consistently play badly, have no gameplan, run out of ideas. Even when we win, in many cases I just don't see great rugby league.
It may be true that it's results that count, but I believe that this season we are riding our luck. I've seen nothing to suggest we are any better than last year, but this time we've got lucky.
We have some great players this season, and that's why I believe we are in a better position. How good would we be with a top class coach?
That's my opinion. You may disagree, and I accept that. But I truly believe we will win nothing with the Billy Mitchell look-alike we have in charge at present, because I don't believe he is good enough.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I am not an Agar fan but we are 4th and should finish in the 6. Slag him all you want but we have improved this season, still not the finished article by a long shot but we are getting better.
Did Agar miss the 23 tackles tonight? Did he tell the kickers to kick high and down the throat of the fullback all night?'"
No, but the coach carries the can. That is sport. He is responsible for the team selection and the tactics.
We have improved on last year but it would be hard not to. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_lol.gif
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OK fair enough... Start a Fitz and Manu out thread then... I dare you. |
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We have improved only because of a few senior players and their input on the pitch...Fitz O meley and Longy...others have upped their game like Whiting and Houghton...Turner has had flashes as has Tansey...but we still have the same old dross been driven by a joke of a coach!!!!!!!!!!I fear for friday if the Dobbs play like they did against the Whino's...........
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"No, but the coach carries the can. That is sport. He is responsible for the team selection and the tactics.
We have improved on last year but it would be hard not to.'"
You're right he does so right now he carries the can for being 4th.
Look I am not an Agar fan but jesus one defeat and people go stupid again. Is he the man to win us trophies? I don't think so but his job this year was to build a team to get us into the playoffs and he has done that. Should now be top 6 and maybe higher.
Every side loses this games, look at Leeds and Saints this season. |
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"OK fair enough... Start a Fitz and Manu out thread then... I dare you.'"
I don't want them out, I was just using your philosophy. |
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"eusa_clap.gif
fickle fans they are'"
Really? It's not that long ago that you said:
Quote I havent really been a fan of these constant Agar out threads and have been previously willing to give him a chance (another ) HOWEVER after yesterdays abysmal showing I think its time something is done whilst there is still a season left to salvage.'" |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You're right he does so right now he carries the can for being 4th.
Look I am not an Agar fan but jesus one defeat and people go stupid again. Is he the man to win us trophies? I don't think so but his job this year was to build a team to get us into the playoffs and he has done that. Should now be top 6 and maybe higher.
Every side loses this games, look at Leeds and Saints this season.'"
I wish they would make this kind of lacklustre ambition public before the start of the season. Why is this only being leaked now!!!! |
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"I wish they would make this kind of lacklustre ambition public before the start of the season. Why is this only being leaked now!!!!'"
So you expected to go from 12th to Champions? |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't want them out, I was just using your philosophy.'"
Well just so it's clear, I do want Agar out. NOW! |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Fitz and Manu were really poor tonight by the standards but they should not be sacked eh. Just Agar, all his fault but we are 4th because of the players and not the coach.
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Agree about Fitzgibbon, less so about Manu. He wasn't as effective but part of that was that he did seem to be a watched man from the start. Made few errors though. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"So you expected to go from 12th to Champions?'"
Who was it that took us to 12th? Iwant that man out too! |
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Agree about Fitzgibbon, less so about Manu. He wasn't as effective but part of that was that he did seem to be a watched man from the start. Made few errors though.'"
He got tackled a few times one on one which hardly ever happens, he looked like he was running though treacle. This season he has been immense imo. |
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"=#0000FFI never once during the game thought that I saw a player that wasn't pulling his weight. I did think I saw someone in the stands looking bereft of ideas though (clue - he was stood next to a ginger bloke).
Agar should change his job title to HR Manager because he clearly does not believe he can COACH these players.'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You're right he does so right now he carries the can for being 4th.
Look I am not an Agar fan but jesus one defeat and people go stupid again. Is he the man to win us trophies? I don't think so but his job this year was to build a team to get us into the playoffs and he has done that. Should now be top 6 and maybe higher.
Every side loses this games, look at Leeds and Saints this season.'"
I don't think anyone has gone "stupid". It's just opinions. Mine being that Agar is not up to the job and is holding us back. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He got tackled a few times one on one which hardly ever happens, he looked like he was running though treacle. This season he has been immense imo.'"
Played a lot more minutes tonight than he has done in other games. |
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Agree about Fitzgibbon, less so about Manu. He wasn't as effective but part of that was that he did seem to be a watched man from the start. Made few errors though.'"
Jeez... Do you get mad at your grandad when he doesn't fancy an arm wrestling contest? Fitz tried but he's an old bloke who's 20 games into a season! |
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