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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Quiet on transfers isn't it ?'"
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| I get the feeling we've been spekaing to players and coming to informal agreements which can't, of course, be formalised at this stage, only to be left out in teh cold when a better offer comes along. Big problem with the quota rules is that average British players suddenly get very expensive
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I get the feeling we've been spekaing to players and coming to informal agreements which can't, of course, be formalised at this stage, only to be left out in teh cold when a better offer comes along. Big problem with the quota rules is that average British players suddenly get very expensive'"
Similar to what wilf said about LMS and we won't announce signings till september if there out of contract , need the brother back for the rumours
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| Quote ="EXPRO"SB is going to be here next season but if there was ever a player who needed the off season it is Shaun, he needs to go home, get some sun and surf and deal with family issues that he simply cant do here! he is fatigued both physically and mentally to be fair and is still suffering family bereavment issues which is understandable so far from home.
with a decent end of season and a good break back in Oz on the beach we will see the old SB back again and we will need him too.
lets not get carried away on the "get rid" crazy train ok, SB is a world class player that has had more injuries than he would have expected all of which has hampered his time here...
Think of RW, he came good after worse injuries didnt he??? and everyone wanted rid of him i recall too'"
Berrigan's not really delivered world class performances over the last 3 seasons, so I don't expect him to next season. Yes, there have been plenty of mitigating circumstances, mainly injuries to him and others. Yes, there have been far worse signings whilst I've been a supporter. Yes, things would have been even worse in 2008 and 2009 without him. But unless something startling happens next year, I'd imagine many will look at his big reputation when signed and £600,000 over four years and feel a bit disappointed.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Berrigan's not really delivered world class performances over the last 3 seasons, so I don't expect him to next season. Yes, there have been plenty of mitigating circumstances, mainly injuries to him and others. Yes, there have been far worse signings whilst I've been a supporter. Yes, things would have been even worse in 2008 and 2009 without him. But unless something startling happens next year, I'd imagine many will look at his big reputation when signed and £600,000 over four years and feel a bit disappointed.'"
It's not even the money we've paid him, it's the fact we've seen nothing of the world class player he undoubtedly was/is, which has been a massive disappointment for me. Best option for both parties for me would be to release him from the final year of his contract and let him find a club in Oz where he can be in a more comfortable environment with his family
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| I`d get rid of Berrigan . Use his spot and money for a decent halfback.
He doesn`t look interested.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's not even the money we've paid him, it's the fact we've seen nothing of the world class player he undoubtedly was/is, which has been a massive disappointment for me. Best option for both parties for me would be to release him from the final year of his contract and let him find a club in Oz where he can be in a more comfortable environment with his family'"
i agree.but would he accept a reasonable pay-off?? plus,we then have to find a replacement.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"i agree.but would he accept a reasonable pay-off?? plus,we then have to find a replacement.'"
Don't think he needs a pay off. With the shift in the exchange rates he could easily get a 2 or 3 year contract in Oz earning what we're paying him.
Replacement would be an issue but I'm more inclined to try and bring a quality player in and live with maybe washbrook covering hooker for a season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Don't think he needs a pay off. With the shift in the exchange rates he could easily get a 2 or 3 year contract in Oz earning what we're paying him.
Replacement would be an issue but [uI'm more inclined to try and bring a quality [/u[uplayer in [/uand live with maybe washbrook covering hooker for a season'"
that's the hard part!!!
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| This release berrigan nonsense is boring now.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"This release berrigan nonsense is boring now.'"
Why is it? It's a reasonable strategy to let a player who is suffering some personal issues to move back to his own country whilst allowing us to use the money to strengthen a more important area of the team.
I'll admit it's unlikely, but certainly worth discussing
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| If I had the say on whether Berro should stay or go I would release him. I would use the money to sign another hooker but a cheaper one and use the additional cash to strengthen the halfbacks.
That said I think it's harsh for people to jump on him. He has just come back from injury and then lost his father, his head will be in pieces right now and he is probably desperate to get hom to his family and be with them for a while.
He is nowhere near his best right now but the effort is still there. The only way he will not be here next season is if he decides he has to go home for family reasons which will be his call. It could be the best thing for both sides but I certainly do not subscribe to the 'get rid' attitude which seems to be creeping in.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
That said I think it's harsh for people to jump on him. He has just come back from injury and then lost his father, his head will be in pieces right now and he is probably desperate to get hom to his family and be with them for a while.
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His poor form isnt a recent thing.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"His poor form isnt a recent thing.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"His poor form isnt a recent thing.
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Correct !! We've had three seasons of less than marquee quality from Berrigan and this has been massively highlighted by the arrival of two REAL quality marquee signings from Oz. The length of his contract is now really proving to be a mistake by the club and hampering our ability to take our squad further forwards.
To call it "nonsense" is more than pathetic but at least the spelling was correct for a change. WELL DONE !
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If I had the say on whether Berro should stay or go I would release him. I would use the money to sign another hooker but a cheaper one and use the additional cash to strengthen the halfbacks.
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McShane on a season long loan?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"McShane on a season long loan?'"
Would be fantastic !
25% of Berrigan's salary perhaps ? Maybe less ?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"His poor form isnt a recent thing.
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Berrigans form at the start of the 2009 season was excellent in fact I would say the moment he went down injured in the win away at the Bulls in that year is the moment Berrigans form(and fitness) seemed to dive.
In 2008 he was better then people are giving him credit for IMO. He was often our shining light in a whole host of positions in a team decimated by injuries in particular to its scrum half and go forward prop (Carvell).
That said this year he has not reached the heights expected for whatever reason and I can understand some peoples frustration given his previous status in world RL.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Berrigans form at the start of the 2009 season was excellent in fact I would say the moment he went down injured in the win away at the Bulls in that year is the moment Berrigans form(and fitness) seemed to dive.
In 2008 he was better then people are giving him credit for IMO. He was often our shining light in a whole host of positions in a team decimated by injuries in particular to its scrum half and go forward prop (Carvell).
That said this year he has not reached the heights expected for whatever reason and I can understand some peoples frustration given his previous status in world RL.'"
Very true Knocker but it's probably more about his salary and quota spot that we could do a hell of a lot more with.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"McShane on a season long loan?'"
I'd go with that and then use the money on a 6 or 7.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Berrigans form at the start of the 2009 season was excellent in fact I would say the moment he went down injured in the win away at the Bulls in that year is the moment Berrigans form(and fitness) seemed to dive.
In 2008 he was better then people are giving him credit for IMO. He was often our shining light in a whole host of positions in a team decimated by injuries in particular to its scrum half and go forward prop (Carvell).
That said this year he has not reached the heights expected for whatever reason and I can understand some peoples frustration given his previous status in world RL.'"
I was just going to type a similar response. I'm with you on this - particularly the first two paragraphs.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I'd go with that and then use the money on a 6 or 7.'"
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Stephen Myler.'"
your joking hes a union star now to come back to league he would want mega bucks, i would hardly call him a great league player either . rather get a young championship halfback or id like us to try and entise someone like mcnally to come to hull with a promise of been given a starting role once longy retires.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Why is it? It's a reasonable strategy to let a player who is suffering some personal issues to move back to his own country whilst allowing us to use the money to strengthen a more important area of the team.
I'll admit it's unlikely, but certainly worth discussing'"
Because he's contracted.
Your using the exchange rate as a example on how to get rid but what about another overseas player? Half backs are in short supply over here as well, you won't get anyone cheep.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Correct !!
We've had three seasons of less than marquee quality from Berrigan and this has been massively highlighted by the arrival of two REAL quality marquee signings from Oz. The length of his contract is now really proving to be a mistake by the club and hampering our ability to take our squad further forwards.
To call it "nonsense" is more than pathetic but at least the spelling was correct for a change. WELL DONE !'"
Cheers
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