Option 2, please.

Hope he goes somewhere he can play in a settled position and be given the time to develop and improve

Yup i agree 100%.......so that would effectively rule out BOTH Hull clubs

Hall has played 60+ games at this level now. He doesn't deliver consistently a standard to keep the shirt and relegate the likes of Yeaman, Briscoe or lately Turner to the bench or keep them out of the squad. Why should any player be given a free run in the first team when others might be training the house down and/or performing well on loan or in the U20s? It's up to players, when given the opportunity, to seize it with both hands and make it impossible to be dropped. See Whiting and Houghton.

Nail. On. Head.

Personally I doubt Hall will ever make it as a top centre, he has the ability but not sure he has the belief and the brain. If we retain him he will be useful cover who will do a good job and score the off cracking try, if he leaves then so be it, no harm done.

How often has Hall played at option 1, in his preferred postion for a sustained period of time?

How often has Whiting? And yet he performs consistently well.

However much you want to believe it, Hall is not a top SL centre. He'd be a great signing for a top 4 championship club, but he's been around long enough for anyone other than the most optimistic fan to realise that he's not cut out for this level of rugby. If we ever want to improve, we have to let [isome[/i players go and use their salaries for better players. We can't re-sign everyone and expect to magically become a better side. Out of the squad we currently have, Hall has to be one of the ones to make way.

Consistently well! Are you sure about that son,,,not always

I'm not saying he never does anything wrong, but his overall performances have, over the course of the season, been of a consistently high standard. Son.

Whiting and Hall are different characters. Not comparable one bit. Whiting can play 1-13 and will generally have a good game. Hall needs to be left centre or left wing and has never had a run there.

But Whiting hasn't had the preassure of knowing one mistake will cost him his place in the team for the next 5 games.

Hall could have being something great but we as a club ruined him, he did not ruin himself. All he needed was to bulk up a bit and sort out his defence and he had the potential to be a great centre, now I reckon he has lost the will to play the game.

In your ever-so-humble opinion, of course.

Good job he was on the pitch today though.

Be intresting to see what happens when calderwood is ready......for me Calderwood should be behind Whiting and Hall for the team.

I'd bring him back in, ATEOTD Whiting/Hall have done decent jobs but Calderwood is an out and out winger and we miss his pace and enthusiasm.

Aye, cos if whiting was on the wing were he started, he would have been in front of Tansey

Here we go, Hall scores a try and now he's been ruined by the club. With the usual suspects in full flow.

Hall isn't good enough on a consistant basis.

I agree....but it is not worth the argument any more...mind you that is class the club ruined him

That's the point entirely. Of course he's capable of doing good things, but he's not consistent enough to make it at this level.



Surely you don't believe this. He was promising as a youngster, but didn't progress as well as his early promise suggested he might. It happens. A lot.



Of course. Goes without saying!

Seems to happen to us more than other clubs...Lee and Thackry didnt do it either......How would you feel if you had 1 bad game and was dropped when others are as bad....Hall will always be a scapegoat.

Hall's played 60 odd games for FC. If he'd delivered consistently he'd have forced his way into the first team, like Houghton and Whiting have done.

How do you know it happens to us more than others? Do you keep abreast of every prospect coming through every club? I think you'll find it just seems like it happens to us more because you notice it more when it's our club.



He's not a scapegoat. Really, he isn't. He's just not as good overall as most (if not all) of the other first team players. If he set the world alight in the games he did play, he wouldn't get dropped.

I think a useful measure of how good a player he is would be the number of clubs interested in him should he become available, and, more importantly, their league positions. Do you seriously think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire or Hudds would want him?

I would like to know how many he has had in 1 go in the cntres.........Houghton is a daft option as he is a bloody hooker and has had to come in and has had only 1 person to vie with and in this game now you use 2 hookers anyway.

Whiting is a 100% and can cover a variety of roles......you have made it clear you dont like Hall....i personally think he is the best attacking centre at the club and yes his defence is dodgy.......i will personally take the word of a ex Widnes player who played with Hall last season over a accountant who only rates someone if he has nice legs and .

Il keep to my opion thanks as last time i looked its a opinions board...not yours to make everyone think your way.

Oh. How touchy.

I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit. I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?