i agree with that in the sense that if the pivots are working (and not out injured) then we have the ability to win games. however with a slightly injury-prone half-back combo then it is frustrating to think we could do better with Washy/Whiting at 13 to add a bit extra in attack

having said that, it's not good to change the dynamic of the team each week to compensate for injuries

i would be in favour of playing washy/whiting at 13 for 2011 and it also saves money and a quota spot

i remember - he had a very good season but had a few niggles to address which would no doubt be rectified with game time and a little more experience but IMO he still has that potential

I hope we can keep Fitz next year tbh.....

A lot depends on who we sign for me, it is paramount that we get settled h/backs, I would be tempted to move Tansey there and move Whiting to full-back..
I favour an extra forward at 13 so if Fitz did go I would buy, I am not impressed with Washy if I am honest

Thinking out of the box here a bit but does anyone think Turner could make a good 13?

A possibility, however he didn't do any-thing special in the h/back roles, however he is settling nicely at centre, good tackler and strong offence...maybe in time with more experience.

or in the box....it's his 'natural' position IIRC

when he signed for us the debate was LF, stand-off or centre...i think he said his favourite was 6 or 13

Turner needs to show a lot more to get in the team, defence is poor at times and isnt doign enough in attack, next season he improves or is a squad player.

I do not think his defence is poor tbh...it is a massive improvement of Halll's

Slightly better but still not good enough IMO.


On this seasons form neither player should be in the 17 when all fit.

Give over

Both missed the same ammount of tackles this season.

Anyway so your saying Turner should be in the team as his defence is better than Halls?

the thing is, even if Turner was showing some form; i'd find it hard to believe he is going to play at LF in this season or next. more like the centres and the slight possibility of a run at 6 or 7

some people on here seem dead cert that Agar will play his style of LF

Again I think he has had chances at 6 and failed to produce, i would use turner as a back up centre next season and play Whiting, Berrigan or a new signign there.

I never said that, I said his defence is better than Hall's but in all fairness so are all the 15s that we coach!!!

I think Turner is doing a decent job, however he still has development and hopefully with the experience he is gaining he will improve further

If Agar has solid creative h/backs then there is no reason why he should not play his style, extra forward imo.

Horne has had his chance and failed to produce for 2 seasons barring the odd game...

True and if I could replace him I would.

Cant argue with that, but i still stand by point if we want to push on Turner (On current form) isnt good enough for our 17. Improvment would have to be great, remeber he isnt a young kid this must be 4/5 season in SL.

Glad we agree on some-thing then

You sure he played with Eastmond ?

Maybe we see different things, I see a strong powerful lad who has a bit of pace, he does not set the world alight but maybe he will, competition for places will not harm his progression and I would welcome a new centre.

Quote ="Dave K."icon_confused.gif:'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/26/jordan-turner-hull-fc-salford Played with Eastmond www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ma ... fc-salford

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Pretty certain that Fitz will be at 13 next year.

Personally I would like to play with Fitz and Manu in the backrow and Lauaki off the bench and have Washbrook at 13. Washy imo will make a good 13 and does well when he plays there.

Whiting would also be an option but last year when we were really struggling he never got a look in there so I doubt he will next season.

Quote ="berrigans bitch"www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/26/jordan-turner-hull-fc-salford Played with Eastmond www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ma ... fc-salford'" I see what you are saying now, It's Turner 4th season of first team rugby, 3 in SL (One season in NL1 when Salford got relegated). Played one more season in Eastmond and look at the difference.

Quote ="berrigans bitch"www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/26/jordan-turner-hull-fc-salford Played with Eastmond www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ma ... fc-salford'" I see what you are saying now, It's Turner 4th season of first team rugby, 3 in SL (One season in NL1 when Salford got relegated). Played one more season in Eastmond and look at the difference.

Not disputing your point.....However Eastmond is a very very special player.