Oh dear here we go again slagging horney off. I'm totally fed up of the negativity of some of our so called supporters just as there is some light at the end of the tunnel they have to go looking for something or someone to slate, can't we all just get behind our team for once and show the rest we are the best supporters in super league!

I actually said when we signed Long we should have brought in another creative style of SO. However, Horne has shown glimpses of his old brilliant self this season so I think its worth perservering with him because a fully fit performing R.Horne is a massive asset to the the club. I would think his next contract will almost certainly be on reduced terms though as he just cant seem to get fit for any length of time and the salary cap needs to be used wisely. We haven't missed the poorly performing Horne this season but we have missed the brilliant Horne as any team would.

Horne started the season fairly well and then really hit top form for a couple of matches showing his class. He then got injured and was rushed back and played when he should have really been rested but needs dictated we had to try him.

Once he is back and playing alongside Long I think they will make a great partnership.

How anyone can knock him for his performances this season I really don't know.

Agree 100%.

Good player when fit. Only problem is for whatever reasons, he never seems to be fit for any decent length of time to judge is form fairly. If you look at the other stand offs in SL, you have to ask the question, would you swap R Horne for them taking into account ability, wage and how much time they actually spend on field. The following stand offs at other clubs I would swap with R Horne. All must be on similar wage.

Wigan – Sam Tomkins.
Warrington – Lee Briers.
Bradford – Brett Kearney.
Castleford – Rangi Chase.
Leeds – Danny McGuire.
Catalans – Adam Mogg (Before he left)
Wakefield – Paul Cooke (If you forget what he did to us).
Crusaders – Michael Witt.
Saints – Leon Pryce.

Harlequins – Luke Dorn and Huddersfield’s – Kevin Brown and Salford’s - Ratchford are on par IMO.

Basically you would swap him for most other stand offs in comp.

Perfectly said, if he has an extended run of games i'm sure we will see the old Rich Horne back to his best,
his illness should not be taken into account for his performances.

Once again we seem to be looking for a scapegoat , who will it be next week??

Of course Richard has been missed he is a top class footballer and we always look a better side with him in it, the issue this season if there has been an issue is that we have not yet seen him have the time to gel with Shaun!!
Answer is YES we have missed him

Nobodies looking for a scapegoat.

A simple question was asked in do we miss him? My opinion was no as hes offered so little on the playing side in such a long time and that i think he's been carried in a lot of games. If he can return to his form of a few years ago then yes he would be a player who would be missed but currently and i admit largely due to injuries, he isnt.

other than his form at the beginning of the season i haven't really been that impressed with him. however, given that Washbrook is the alternative when he's injured then i'd say we have missed him. IMO we should be looking for a better (i.e. more reliable, less injury prone) stand-off.

I agree completely with the fact that Washy is not a 6 and yes Horney will improve the team at the moment that position.
But, my point being, Horne is a shadow of the player before his injury. He is a player on an international wage but in no way is he an international quality player!!
I'm not starting a vendetta against Horne, i just feel that if we want to push for trophies and more success we need to progress more and losing a big earner who isn't performing at his best will help us to do this.
I think bringing Ratchford in for 2011 to work alongside Longy for a year will help no end and he will be far cheaper than Horne!!
People may disagree, but that is just my opinion!!

could be a good option,both playing wise and financially.

Ratchford is the one!! Young, English, Has alot of potential but with already high level of ability, And cheap due to being at a club which possibly won't get a their franchise renewed.
He could learn from Long and even to a degree from Horne but for Horney to stay i would want him to take a pay cut at his next renewal down to squad player level or simply allow him to move on with our best wishes!!

50K of Horneys contract doesn`t count due to his service , making him a cheaper option.
Lets judge Richard if he gets to play consistanly alongside Long.

He looked back to his best when he got consecutive MOM awards earlier this season.

My thoughts exactly. When will people stop wittering on!

Horne needs some luck now. I'd love to see him back in the side and then staying fit for a good 3 or 4 months to really show his worth. I said before the season started that if he comes back stronger than ever it will be like having a brand new signing at 6 because of the best part of 2 years he's missed.

Richard Horne gets more money after his £50k deduction than Stefan Ratchford would cost plus; Better injury record (so far), Better prospect and ability to adapt and learn more from Longy (a player to build a team around for the next 10 yrs).

Also, that £50k would then switch to another player in their testimonial year e.g. Yeamo can't be far off.

We would still be saving Horne's full salary

The money is irrelevant to me mate, Horne is a shoe in when fit. We just need to get him fit. He's head and shoulders above Ratchford and is still only 27/28 i think. If he gets over his injuries we have 5+ years left of Horne at 6.

God knows



Seems some people would rather have Ratchford who can't even get a game at Salford.

And therein lies the problem

Neither could Myler when he decided he was leaving. Its just Bombers way of punishing a player who wants out!! Ratchford is only 21 and should be the sort of player you develop your team around. Don't get me wrong he is not the best 6 in the world but IMO he would offer us more than Horne in the long term but learn from him and the other senior players around him (Long, Fitz and Ogre while they are here) in the shorter term. I genuinely think we have seen Horneys best days.

nah i dont i think theres better to come from rich.

He stands little chance, all the time that idiot coach keeps sending him out pumped full of pain killers and strapped like an extra from The Mummy