Based on this seasons performances he would do just as good a job as Cusack, Radford and Dowes on a lot less money which would enable to strengthen in other areas. Orge and Moa can be the hard hitting props with Dowes and say LMS as the work horses with Wheeldon as back-up. A cheaper unit then we currently use and much better IMO.

do you seen any of the top sides going with props like that tho'?.ogre and moa,yes,but the top sides have excellent backups,not average.

Such as?

leeds,saints,wire,and even wigan.

No he's not worth that kind of money.

Who is the 5th choice prop at those clubs please.

off the top of my head

leeds have leulai,burgess,bailey,kirke,jjb,peacock

saints have fozzard,graham,hargreaves faasavalu

wigan fielden,coley,paleaasina,prescott,o'carroll

wire morley,carvell,wood,cooper

ogre and moa-yes.but what about backups?would you pick radford,dowes or wheeldon over these?

Ogre, Moa possibly LMS and then Dowes is a decent unit with Wheeldon as back up. Just who else could we realistically get that is British and an improvement without costing a lot more money?

Mind you look at hudds, they only have 3 props

jjb and kirke have played prop just as many times as 2nd row this year.

Sr's who can play as prop, same way we could use luaki/fitz/tickle i guess rather than keeping 5 first choicers

Well going by that theory we can say Fitz and Hame are back up props as well so were actually really strong at prop



This thread was about the possibility of signing Wheeldon, my point is that as a 5th choice prop who else would be better? We already have 2 quota props signed up for next season so the replacements must be British and realistically available.

Maybe we should go with just the 4 props for next season with back-up from the 2nd Row and spend the money elsewhere?

well,everyone keeps saying on here about lauaki been used as both a sr and a prop.leeds have done similiar,possibly due to injuries,but they have done it.4 props and hame could be an option?we are desperate for a 3/4 and a halfback,hopefully ones who have a bit of pace aswell.i would rather see the money go on them positions than waste £35-50k on a 5th choice prop.

I dont think you need 4 super star props. I have seen NRL teams use 2 quality ones and bring though youth players and/or cheaper alternatives. Im sure there are to bright young things somewhere who deserve a shot.

Tough position but if you are a decent size and you can hold onto a ball you can give it a good shot. That is what Dowes and Radford do but im sure there are 2 others out there who can do it on half the cash they are on.

They are still most likely on "International Player" sized wages.

-with our injury problems,we need more than 2 'star' props!!!ogre and moa fit the bill,but we need 2 more-would people be happy with dowes being retained?or radford?i think 1 will stay and 1 will go.

2005 was built around 4 props who were superstars for the day, all thanks to Kear

A definate no to getting wheeldon back. Why would you want someone potentially 5th choice commanding that kind of money under the salary cap. Would rather run with 4 props and use one of our youngsters as cover thus freeing up money for a decent centre.

Edited

Not big enough. Not good enough. Will never be more than average at best.

Yes we'll probably offer him a 3yr deal !!!

No to Wheeldon and a deffo no to keeping Dowes.

Dowes offers us nothing, been robbing a wage as a SL prop for the last 2 seasons. No doubt the club will offer him a new deal though!

So yes to radford?

1 of them will be getting a new contract i reckon.With Yak going i can't see us letting another 2 props go.

In an ideal world, Dowes, Cusack and Radford would all go. They are just not good enough for a team that wants to be successful. However, with no quota spots available and not many good British props, one of them will end up staying even though they offer close to nothing.

I bet he could but I doubt he is gonna start posting his wages on here mate