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| We can't expect to win every game.
We can expect to see some passion, commitment and entertaining rugby with a gameplan. Not the same old injuries, injuries, injuries excuse. Do the injuries force us to play 5 drives (if we don't knock on or try an impossible offload) and a kick?
I watched every game this weekend. There's not one team that we'd have beaten (apart from maybe KR).
I can buy a reasonable amount of entertainment for £195 - just this year I sunk it in to a season pass
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Given last years senario, does anyone honestly believe that sitting in 6th at this point is a disaster??
The club have picked up injuries at present just as other teams are getting their injured back which is a major factor remember that !
A team with a makeshift halfback pair will struggle its as simple as that!!
The teams time will come this season there is a lot we have not seen yet!!'"
The league table is obviously the most common tool used to assess how teams are performing, but on this instance, where we sit on the league ladder is a total irrelevance to me.
Our performances since the Salford game have been wholly unacceptable imo. In that time Agar has proved to me that he either does not have the ability or the knowledge to turn things around. We are simply devoid of any ideas or seem to lack enthusiasm far to regularly and that is down to one man.
There are no wonder players seem to like Agar, as he is the one who always comes up with the excuses for their poor performances. Agar has single handedly created a culture at our club where it is alright to play e week in week out, because he will always find an excuse instead of growing a pair and admitting that a performance was not acceptable.
In short, I couldn’t give a fook where we are in the league, our performances have not been good enough and Agar needs to wake up and smell the coffee and bugger off.
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| if agar had anything about him he would have had them in for extra training on monday not letting them go on the drink .Also they are not fit enough so they need it anyway
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| Quote ="jordanp"There are plenty of well thought out arguments why Agar is not the right man for the job that I have used time and time again, Im past that now and all that needs to be said is that the man is simply a =#FF0000That word is not acceptable on RLFANS - K.
We may win the next two and remain in a resonable league position, but even when we win the performances are terrible, I said after the Wakefield game that that Wakefields perfomance with the ball in hand was the worst side I can remember seeing in the SL era, the posession they had they in good areas had it bee any other team they would have hammered us , but we still struggled. We have only played well in one game this season that was Saints, we were shocking away at Leeds, Wigan, Celtic, Salford and Quins, terrible at home to Leeds and Wakey, the rest we have scaped through just playing one man rugby, our lack of second phase is laughable, the man without doubt the worst head coach this club has ever seen.'"
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| Quote ="PaulDobbs"After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job
Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"
You need to get Yeamo and Houghton to have a word with a fellow Hull born team-mate who was sending "Agar Out" texts to his mates from the Hull team coach on saturday night...
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| Quote ="Dave K."I have still yet to see these pro Agar people giving reasons and facts as why Agar is still out head coach and why he has given a contract extension.
I along with other can give you many reasons and facts why he shouldnt be the head coach.'"
Totally agree Dave..I have yet to talk to any FC fan who can give 1 reason why he should be head coach.
We have put up with 2 seasons of excuses, but the fact remains it is his own team now..sorry state of affairs imo.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"You need to get Yeamo and Houghton to have a word with a fellow Hull born team-mate who was sending "Agar Out" texts to his mates from the Hull team coach on saturday night...'"
And you a moderater!
I find it funny that we only here off some posters when were doing poorly
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| Quote ="Sheldon"And you a moderater!
I find it funny that we only here off some posters when were doing poorly'"
Just pointing out that opinion seems to be split amongst the players. There may have been Rovers players sending out similar texts about Morgan for all i know but i didnt get to read any of those.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Just pointing out that opinion seems to be split amongst the players. There may have been Rovers players sending out similar texts about Morgan for all i know but i didnt get to read any of those.'"
Well the player in question ( I heard it was the one who cannot tackle a sunday dinner )....clearly thinks we fans will accept that his pathetic impersonation of a rugby player is down to Agar, he is taking the p1ss out of the faithful, lets hope he fecks of to rovers nxt season
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Well the player in question ( I heard it was the one who cannot tackle a sunday dinner
)....clearly thinks we fans will accept that his pathetic impersonation of a rugby player is down to Agar, he is taking the p1ss out of the faithful, lets hope he fecks of to rovers nxt season
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At the moment, that player should concentrate on his own performances before criticising others, as that’s our job
After his showing on Saturday, he’s be lucky to get into a Skairlaugh or West Hull team.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Totally agree Dave..I have yet to talk to any FC fan who can give 1 reason why he should be head coach.
We have put up with 2 seasons of excuses, but the fact remains it is his own team now..sorry state of affairs imo.'"
I can't pretend to be a Hull FC fan, but:
1. The excuse - Long, Berrigan and Fitzgibbon all out.
2. The reason - 7 wins and 6 defeats and 6th place in a highly competitative league. Before the 1st game of the season raised expectations I think most of you would have settled for that. Wakefield started strongly then have faded, until our recent very bad slump our form was like a sine wave, Quins looked like they couldn't beat and an egg then won 3 in a row (incl. cup), Bradford battered us, then were nilled by Crusaders. Even Leeds have had a bad run and remain behind you.
That said, on the back of 2 terrible seasons, I can see why you're losing patience. What I think Agar needs to see (and I've said the same about Morgan) is that playing too conservatively carries risk, in that you become predictable and surrender the initiative. The bind is that once confidence is low, playing with more variety and ambition becomes doubly difficult.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I can't pretend to be a Hull FC fan, but:
1. The excuse - Long, Berrigan and Fitzgibbon all out.
2. The reason - 7 wins and 6 defeats and 6th place in a highly competitative league. Before the 1st game of the season raised expectations I think most of you would have settled for that. Wakefield started strongly then have faded, until our recent very bad slump our form was like a sine wave, Quins looked like they couldn't beat and an egg then won 3 in a row (incl. cup), Bradford battered us, then were nilled by Crusaders. Even Leeds have had a bad run and remain behind you.
That said, on the back of 2 terrible seasons, I can see why you're losing patience. What I think Agar needs to see (and I've said the same about Morgan) is that playing too conservatively carries risk, in that you become predictable and surrender the initiative. The bind is that once confidence is low, playing with more variety and ambition becomes doubly difficult.'"
I am not losing patience..I am an FC fan you know
I am just commenting on some two bit player who needs to sort out his own performance before texting all his mates about getting the coach out( I was told about this last night)..Our points are the same at this point of the season as they were last season, however our position is differen, I believe we will finish top 6..maybe top 4..
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| Let's hope the saints come knocking for agar now potter is offski!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I believe we will finish top 6..maybe top 4..'"
Sorry, I'm maybe misunderstanding - you still have faith in Agar and believe he will deliver relative success this year? Again, sorry, but it is such an unusual (though not unreasonable IMO) opinion on here that you've thrown me a little.
Are we agreeing or disagreeing?
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| Yes the position in the league is good at the moment but when you look at the performances of the players we wont be in that position for very long!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Just pointing out that opinion seems to be split amongst the players. There may have been Rovers players sending out similar texts about Morgan for all i know but i didnt get to read any of those.'"
well if it's hall like it's been suggested, I think, he should love off
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I believe we will finish top 6..'"
Maybe - with luck and a following wind...
Quote ="berrigans bitch"maybe top 4..'"
No chance.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Maybe - with luck and a following wind...
No chance.
Regarding 'textgate' - we should be a little cautious believing and indeed posting rumours that could get players into serious bother. If it [iwere[/i true that [iany[/i player did something like that then they should be dropped immediately and disciplined. It's unprofessional to say the least, and frankly pretty bloody stupid.'" CRAIG HALL will be dropped anyway. Mind you, he's a Hull fan that wants Agar out! Not alone there is he?
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| We may indeed finish in the top eight, we may even finish higher then sixth.
It will not detract from the standard of rugby on display or the clear lack of team capable of performing at the hightest level. I see a team that resorts the the standard five drives and kick at every opportunity and they clearly have no plan B when it goes wrong.
[size=150[iIts rugby league Jim , but not as I know it [/size[/i
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| Quote Its laughable that professional sportsmen are in a pub mid season. especially ones who are massivley underachieving.
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After the hammering Quins took of the Dobbins at Easter McDermott took the players training that night.(6pm at the training ground) at 6 am the following morning he had them back in punching punch bags!!
We’ve not looked back- run Saints close and then 3 straight wins!all teams in the top 8
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Sorry, I'm maybe misunderstanding - you still have faith in Agar and believe he will deliver relative success this year? Again, sorry, but it is such an unusual (though not unreasonable IMO) opinion on here that you've thrown me a little.
Are we agreeing or disagreeing?'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"Maybe - with luck and a following wind...
No chance.
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He needs to figure out who his friends are because the text has been shown to half of flippin Hull
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He needs to figure out who his friends are because the text has been shown to half of flippin Hull
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He needs to figure out who his friends are because the text has been shown to half of flippin Hull
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Really? Wouldnt believe any rumours you read on RLFans mate.'"
TBF Dave, was told last night, however I have not seen the text so I cannot say 100% who sent it, just going on who they said it was.
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