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| Quote ="wolfie"They will be around till agar gets booted out,people on here have had it with him and what shut,hull fc fans are different to others we want instant success and its not going to happen,it will take time,we are still in a healthy position in the league and i dont think we are that bad tbh,we have played some decent rugby this season and scored some great tries,im very dissapointed at been out of the cup but its not as if we played myton warriors.
i dont have a problem with people voicing there opinions,thats what its all about,be interesting to see what comes out of the club in the next few days.'"
so whats your answer mate, in or out?
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| Quote ="wolfie"They will be around till agar gets booted out,people on here have had it with him and what shut,hull fc fans are different to others we want instant success and its not going to happen,it will take time,we are still in a healthy position in the league and i dont think we are that bad tbh,we have played some decent rugby this season and scored some great tries,im very dissapointed at been out of the cup but its not as if we played myton warriors.
i dont have a problem with people voicing there opinions,thats what its all about,be interesting to see what comes out of the club in the next few days.'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"They will be around till agar gets booted out,people on here have had it with him and what shut,hull fc fans are different to others we want instant success and its not going to happen,it will take time,we are still in a healthy position in the league and i dont think we are that bad tbh,we have played some decent rugby this season and scored some great tries,im very dissapointed at been out of the cup but its not as if we played myton warriors.
i dont have a problem with people voicing there opinions,thats what its all about,be interesting to see what comes out of the club in the next few days.'"
I dont have a problem either Wolfie, but why does there have to be loads of threads why not stick with 1
I am dissappointed as others and hope that things in the league will turn around HOWEVER at this point I dont think Agar is the man to do it, and HULLFC should act now before its too late and theres another season gone
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"so whats your answer mate, in or out?'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"They will be around till agar gets booted out,people on here have had it with him and what shut,hull fc fans are different to others [uwe want instant success[/u and its not going to happen,it will take time,we are still in a healthy position in the league and i dont think we are that bad tbh,we have played some decent rugby this season and scored some great tries,im very dissapointed at been out of the cup but its not as if we played myton warriors.
i dont have a problem with people voicing there opinions,thats what its all about,be interesting to see what comes out of the club in the next few days.'"
I don't think that's entirely fair. Agar's been in the job 2 years now. We're spending up to the cap but his squad is not balanced and we have one recognised winger, a 34 year old scrum half with NO back-up in this crucial position and only really O'Meley as a class prop. The team and Agar openly admit to not studying the opposition to formulate a gameplan and Agar comes out with comments like "I told them to have a good dig" and "I told them - if you see it, play it" which are hardly meticulously detailed plans. James Webster commented on the fact that Justin Morgan, for example, provides far more detail and direction in terms of tactics and individual contributions. Look at what Brown and Maguire have done with non-superstar squads and you can see the impact of top class coach. Agar seems nice and works very hard, but to settle for him is accepting failure to challenge for silverware IMO.
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| Quote ="wolfie"stay
fair play mate, respect the fact you have stuck to your opinion of Agar despite the majority on here disagreing with you and sometimes mocking you.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think that's entirely fair. Agar's been in the job 2 years now. We're spending up to the cap but his squad is not balanced and we have one recognised winger, a 34 year old scrum half with NO back-up in this crucial position and only really O'Meley as a class prop. The team and Agar openly admit to not studying the opposition to formulate a gameplan and Agar comes out with comments like "I told them to have a good dig" and "I told them - if you see it, play it" which are hardly meticulously detailed plans. James Webster commented on the fact that Justin Morgan, for example, provides far more detail and direction in terms of tactics and individual contributions. Look at what Brown and Maguire have done with non-superstar squads and you can see the impact of top class coach. Agar seems nice and works very hard, but to settle for him is accepting failure to challenge for silverware IMO.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think that's entirely fair. Agar's been in the job 2 years now. We're spending up to the cap but his squad is not balanced and we have one recognised winger, a 34 year old scrum half with NO back-up in this crucial position and only really O'Meley as a class prop. The team and Agar openly admit to not studying the opposition to formulate a gameplan and Agar comes out with comments like "I told them to have a good dig" and "I told them - if you see it, play it" which are hardly meticulously detailed plans. James Webster commented on the fact that Justin Morgan, for example, provides far more detail and direction in terms of tactics and individual contributions. Look at what Brown and Maguire have done with non-superstar squads and you can see the impact of top class coach. Agar seems nice and works very hard, but to settle for him is accepting failure to challenge for silverware IMO.'"
Sums it all up for me. It was always a big risk with Long granted, but then a decent coach would have made sure there were contingency plans. Our contingency plan seems to be if Long is out stick Washy in there as he has done it many times before (regardless of the fact the partnership has yet to suceed). The fact we have all heard players say they concentrate on their own game rather than the opposition speaks volumes about the coach and his staff for me.
I admire Wolfie for sticking to his beliefs about Agar and people should not be getting on at him about it. I think Wolfie would not be too upset if we parted ways with Agar and brought in a big name coach with with a good pedigree.
Lets face it Hull are one of the big clubs and it should be the smaller clubs who are test driving the unknown coaches. Leeds took Smith from Huddersfield after he proved he can do a job with a poor squad. Time we started doing the same.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think that's entirely fair. Agar's been in the job 2 years now. We're spending up to the cap but his squad is not balanced and we have one recognised winger, a 34 year old scrum half with NO back-up in this crucial position and only really O'Meley as a class prop. The team and Agar openly admit to not studying the opposition to formulate a gameplan and Agar comes out with comments like "I told them to have a good dig" and "I told them - if you see it, play it" which are hardly meticulously detailed plans. James Webster commented on the fact that Justin Morgan, for example, provides far more detail and direction in terms of tactics and individual contributions. Look at what Brown and Maguire have done with non-superstar squads and you can see the impact of top class coach. Agar seems nice and works very hard, but to settle for him is accepting failure to challenge for silverware IMO.'"
Agree with Mrs B and........
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| Agar may be a nice person.I consider myself a nice person,but I can`t coach for shi ite.
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| Out not only him all the coaching staff .
Hall never been coached to tackle or as I was at 11 never turn your back to the opposition.
When was the last time we produced a forward ?
This the home of Whiteley,Coverdale,Markham,Scott,Taylor,Lowe,Rose ,Harrison, Crooks,Casey,Crane etc.
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| I really wanted Agar to succeed and I feel I have tried to support & defend him, although I no longer feel I can
The main reason for me is Moa
It was such a wrong and totally unfair decision...any coach worth his salt encourages players to earn their shirt, however Agar does not he has favourites and this is not good enough in any team, let alone a SL team.
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| i applaud your club for showing such confidence in handing agar a new contract,i sincerely hope that they keep him until it runs out at the very least
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| I seem to recall Agar saying during a recent interview that if he did not think he could take the club forward then he would step aside. We have a far better squad but RA is not getting anything like the best out of them, good bloke, poor SL coach (IMO). Started brightly against Saints & Hudds and basically went down hill from there. Have a good look in the mirror Richard and please step aside because the club won't have the balls to do it. I still can't believe the April 1st announcement of his contract extension and personally think were stuffed for this season and part of next before anything happens.
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| Out, along with the conditioner.
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Starting to sway more towards OUT as each week progresses, though.
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| Quote ="Panda92"Out, along with the conditioner.'"
whats he got to do with it??
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think that's entirely fair. Agar's been in the job 2 years now. We're spending up to the cap but his squad is not balanced and we have one recognised winger, a 34 year old scrum half with NO back-up in this crucial position and only really O'Meley as a class prop. The team and Agar openly admit to not studying the opposition to formulate a gameplan and Agar comes out with comments like "I told them to have a good dig" and "I told them - if you see it, play it" which are hardly meticulously detailed plans. James Webster commented on the fact that Justin Morgan, for example, provides far more detail and direction in terms of tactics and individual contributions. Look at what Brown and Maguire have done with non-superstar squads and you can see the impact of top class coach. Agar seems nice and works very hard, but to settle for him is accepting failure to challenge for silverware IMO.'"
Agreed Mrs B. I've not said much about Agar since he took over fully as the "not his players" and the injury situation went, I felt completely against him. Now with his "own" team and unfortunately, some injuries again, I've just lost patience. I was embarrassed by how poor we were yesterday and the buck stops with the coach.
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| why should he ever walk away from his job?
he was only recently handed a new deal by the club,so if you want him out now surely you must pay off his contract,and not expect him to walk away without any compensation as soon as results take a turn for the worse?
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| Quote ="wolfie"They will be around till agar gets booted out,people on here have had it with him and what shut,hull fc fans are different to others we want instant success and its not going to happen,it will take time,we are still in a healthy position in the league and i dont think we are that bad tbh,we have played some decent rugby this season and scored some great tries,im very dissapointed at been out of the cup but its not as if we played myton warriors.
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Wolfster, I appreciate agar is a mate but even you must see that being embarrassed by crusaders, salford, wigan and leeds twice in a week is unacceptable and it's time for agar to go and someone with some fresh ideas to come in.
Dropping moa just summed agar up for me. Totally clueless
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wolfster, I appreciate agar is a mate but even you must see that being embarrassed by crusaders, salford, wigan and leeds twice in a week is unacceptable and it's time for agar to go and someone with some fresh ideas to come in.
Dropping moa just summed agar up for me. Totally clueless'"
was a very strange choice.
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