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| I would drop Dowes
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I would drop Dowes'"
I would too, if only because he couldn't be d to get himself back onside so Tansey could take a quick restart tap on Hull's 20.
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| More chance of me being made next coach of FC than dowes being dropped
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| Quote Quote ="fcandy"Sam Moa should be in the team, no doubt.
Watching Cusack, Dowes and Radford over the past few seasons, I have to say all three constantly disappoint me. Defensively they are ok but they are painfully slow and do not carry it hard or fast. Radford always turns his back into the tackle, which is a strange habit and often he offloads in stupid situations. I couldn’t believe they gave him the contract extension last year. He also gives a lot of penalties away. Cusack is a professional but I’m glad he is retiring to be honest. Both him and Dowes are error free but they need to carry it harder. Too often they carry it up with a limp jog and then get put on their backs. They stand so shallow when taking a run and the lack of momentum is evident in the contact. I know they all give their best, but what we should be asking is, is there best good enough? We will never progress whilst we are retaining these sorts of players.'" '"
All three missed vital tackles in the middle of the park against Wire and Leeds that eventually led to our opponents scoring.
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| Quote ="Giraffe"All three missed vital tackles in the middle of the park against Wire and Leeds that eventually led to our opponents scoring.'"
Big Sam had a good game but it wasn't the three you mention missing tackles or at least not just them. Turner was the biggest culprit and very disappointing with Lauacki missing some vital ones as well. Both players had hands on Senior and Maguire at various times and let them just walk through! There were times when other players , perhaps the three mentioned , were trying to cover these busts and probably failing. The main problem though was when we slide we don't move up and when we move up we don't slide. Certainly at Leeds we left Leeds with space in front of them which you just cannot do.
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| Quote ="barham red"Thats what made me ask, you normally have to 'carry' impact players like him and they can end up being a luxury, 15 - 20 decent minutes max. I thought this would be why Agar hasn't played him'"
Agar prefers consistancy, players that are consistantly average. I've got nothing against Radford, Dowes or Cusack but to see them all turn out together shows a complete lack of ambition. We will never be anything better then average with Agar in charge, big Sam and our squad deserve a better coach.
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| Have a look at Sam's stats on the Leeds board, top class.
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| Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Peter Cusack: 36 - 9 (4.00) - 17 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 1
Mark O'Meley: 91 - 13 (7.00) - 19 - 2 (90%) - 1 - 0
Willie Manu: 74 - 14 (5.29) - 9 - 1 (90%) - 2 - 0
Epalahame Lauaki: 87 - 15 (5.80) - 21 - 3 (88%) - 0 - 0
Lee Radford: 79 - 16 (4.94) - 24 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 0
Ewan Dowes: 94 - 15 (6.27) - 13 - 3 (81%) - 0 - 1
Sam Moa: 93 - 12 (7.75) - 10 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
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| imo big sam has to play on saturday, and them stats dont lie, top class.
imo its dowes or yak to drop out and i prefer yak if im honest, so drop dowes and give moa the chance he deserves, great imact prop.
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| Quote ="cameron"imo big sam has to play on saturday, and them stats dont lie, top class.
imo its dowes or yak to drop out and i prefer yak if im honest, so drop dowes and give moa the chance he deserves, great imact prop.'"
Season too far for cusack IMO. Drop him on Saturday
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| Not a fan of Cussack but this may be the game he craves, had his best game for a long while against Rovers and his best game ever for the club was the semi win over Wakey.
Dowes defense was awful on sunday, cant believe he only missed 3 to be honest, we were commenting on it a lot on sunday.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"Agar prefers consistancy, players that are consistantly average. [uI've got nothing against Radford, Dowes or Cusack but to see them all turn out together shows a complete lack of ambition[/u. We will never be anything better then average with Agar in charge, big Sam and our squad deserve a better coach.'"
Agree completely with that.
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| I would drop Dowes, he looked out of sorts on Sunday.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I would drop Dowes, he looked out of sorts on Sunday.'"
Fully agree.Would be a travesty if Moa is the prop to miss out on saturday.
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| If Moa misses out it just adds more weight to the anti Agar supporters. Unlike when Whiting was dropped to the bench after having a MOM performance it was understandable due to Tansey being our specialist FB. Dowes/Cusack are just props at the end of the day and if another prop is doing a far better job then it is just common sense to drop one of the ones not playing so good.
We looked a much better outfit when he was on the pitch and he was always looking for the ball as well as doing a grand job in defence. Previously i agreed with Agars insistence on playing Dowes/Cusack/Radford but Moa has certainly proved he deserves to be in the 17 on merit alone.
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| Would add massive impetus to bring him and lauaki on together late on in the 1st half of matches
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| surely on the bench
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| Sam should have been in every week coming off the bench to replace o meley at the same time hulk replaces manu very affective to bring these guys on with 15 mins to go in the first half I would say. MOA is young and as our club has difficulty bringing young props through, MOA is our only hope for a long term prop been developed by our club. Dont care who is dropped out of dowes, cusack radford for me they all carbon copies of each other and dont stand out too much for me, dont buy into this high tackle count stuff when all players should putting in a good stint in defence its half the game!!!
Moa brings big impact taking 3 tacklers everytime, DOES tackle, can off load and shows he wants to play. I havent seen him have a bad game since last summer when he has played.
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| Quote ="faithful13"Sam should have been in every week coming off the bench to replace o meley at the same time hulk replaces manu very affective to bring these guys on with 15 mins to go in the first half I would say. MOA is young and as our club has difficulty bringing young props through, MOA is our only hope for a long term prop been developed by our club. Dont care who is dropped out of dowes, cusack radford for me they all carbon copies of each other and dont stand out too much for me, dont buy into this high tackle count stuff when all players should putting in a good stint in defence its half the game!!!
Moa brings big impact taking 3 tacklers everytime, DOES tackle, can off load and shows he wants to play. I havent seen him have a bad game since last summer when he has played.'"
Totally agree and something I have been advocating since before the season even started. I also said that Radford, Dowes and Yak would play most weeks because we have a coach not willing/able to drop one of them. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if Moa was left out again on Saturday.
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| agar won,t have the balls to play moa
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| Quote ="nosneb"agar won,t have the balls to play moa'"
That would be a very poor call, Sam deserves a place on Saturday. He punched some real holes in the Leeds defence and we will need that again off the bench at the weekend.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That would be a very poor call, Sam deserves a place on Saturday. He punched some real holes in the Leeds defence and we will need that again off the bench at the weekend.'"
Wouldn't bank on him being in the 17 if tickle and fitz are back
Poor decision if he isn't IMO
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Ask Michael Monaghan.'"
THAT was one helluva hit!!!
How the hell Monaghan got up I'll never know!
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Totally agree and something I have been advocating since before the season even started. I also said that Radford, Dowes and Yak would play most weeks because we have a coach not willing/able to drop one of them. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if Moa was left out again on Saturday.'"
Totally agree !! I've said since pre-season that Moa should be on the bench every week but I think that we all knew that Agar would not have the ability/balls to drop one of Radford/Yak/Dowes. This will probably continue on Saturday to the absolute detriment of the team.
FWIW, I think that we'll probably fall a little short on Saturday but if we are going to do it, we need Moa upfront. Didn't we score just about all of our points while he was on the pitch on Saturday ?? We certainly looked a far better side during his two spells.
For me, Dowes should be dropped but whether it's him or his total replica in Radford, the improvement to our squad will be the same.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Totally agree !! I've said since pre-season that Moa should be on the bench every week but I think that we all knew that Agar would not have the ability/balls to drop one of Radford/Yak/Dowes. This will probably continue on Saturday to the absolute detriment of the team.
FWIW, I think that we'll probably fall a little short on Saturday but if we are going to do it, we need Moa upfront. Didn't we score just about all of our points while he was on the pitch on Saturday ?? We certainly looked a far better side during his two spells.
For me, Dowes should be dropped but whether it's him or his total replica in Radford, the improvement to our squad will be the same.'"
Sunday !!! I don't even know what day it was and I was stood there !!
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