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| Would be tough on Calderwood if not offered a new contract but as we are so short on outside backs it is imperative we have players contracted with a reasonable level of health. If he can stay fit after this new setback i would keep him as I think we need specialists in the wing position. Yeaman for me would go, just don't see enough of a complete centre personally. Also with him playing the game so flat, the winger outside him is often wasted.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yes. Will he be able to? Doubt it unless ooc which i'm not sure about.
Is there any other young props about?'"
LMS, Watts and Wheeldon are ooc.
I don't know about any others.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"how is that the right answer when he talks about replacements?
Have you taken your medication?'"
your continued abuse and attempts to derail the thread are childish at best , act somewhat grown up like others who are trying to answer and discuss like adults, feel free to join in or visit the many other threads you can rub yourself against some one elses leg
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yes. Will he be able to? Doubt it unless ooc which i'm not sure about.
Is there any other young props about?'"
I know LMS is mentioned a lot but again unless there is other things going on behind the scenes he always looked happy there, big fish small pond kinda stuff...
Dont know enough about Watts
Wheeldon apart from being younger is no better than what we already have, similar to higgins etc.. a few good young lads in the NL1 but are we in the market for projects again??...
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"your continued abuse and attempts to derail the thread are childish at best , act somewhat grown up like others who are trying to answer and discuss like adults, feel free to join in or visit the many other threads you can rub yourself against some one elses leg
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Abuse? Where?
You keep contridicting yourself!
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| Quote ="lummy" Yeaman for me would go, just don't see enough of a complete centre personally. Also with him playing the game so flat, the winger outside him is often wasted.'"
I have similar thoughts on Yeaman
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"I know LMS is mentioned a lot but again unless there is other things going on behind the scenes he always looked happy there, big fish small pond kinda stuff...
Dont know enough about Watts
Wheeldon apart from being younger is no better than what we already have, similar to higgins etc.. a few good young lads in the NL1 but are we in the market for projects again??...'" We need something more substansial than a "project" IMO.
LMS - Think it's time for him to move on, things just aren't progressing in the big smoke.
Wheeldon - Was released once so wouldn't go back, also don't think he'd want to come TBH.
Watts - Would definitely make it known we was interested, just to let him know he has options before he commits to Rovers
Anyway, think the back line needs most attention this year TBH.
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| Cusack will retire.
Hall will leave I reckon.
One of Dowes or Radford might leave.
Tickle might leave but will hopefully stay.
Whiting will stay I reckon.
Priorities will be a prop to give us 5 again. Also a centre to replace Hall and provide competition for place with Yeaman and Whiting.
So for me possibly two coming in. LMS would be a very useful addition especialy with him being English and as for a centre I really don't know.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
Also a centre to replace Hall and provide competition for place with Yeaman and Whiting.
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Turner? Horne is only 27/28 isnt he so has another 4 or 5 seasons left in him at 6. (not to mention Lyne as a future centre)
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Turner? Horne is only 27/28 isnt he so has another 4 or 5 seasons left in him at 6. (not to mention Lyne as a future centre)'"
Yes, of course, silly me. Turner will be the obvious choice so I guess the 2nd player to bring in could be a winger should Calderwood leave other than that I don't see where the priority would be.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Cusack will retire.
Hall will leave I reckon...
One of Dowes or Radford might leave. [uwe dont need both do we anymore[/u
Tickle might leave but will hopefully stay. [uwasnt it mentioned he was happy to stay now[/u
Whiting will stay I reckon. [uhope so[/u
Priorities will be a prop to give us 5 again. Also a centre to replace Hall and provide competition for place with Yeaman and Whiting. [uspot on unless they use Hame in the front row and bring the squad lads into 2nds[/u
So for me possibly two coming in. LMS would be a very useful addition especialy with him being English and as for a centre I really don't know.'" [u Turner to start there maybe[/u
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"We need something more substansial than a "project" IMO.
Anyway, think the back line needs most attention this year TBH.'"
spot on, I know they are not available every day but a Gidley style player would make us a fairly complete side, I am led to believe the club have an young option at SH cover they are talking to , Horne has a few years left , we have wingers in waiting so I guess Centre is the issue as Whiting may well move to the pack as he gets older and replaces positions in the pack shuffle as Radders leaves etc
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"[u Turner to start there maybe[/u'"
If Cusack leaves we are down to four props (Rad, Moa, Ogre and Dowes), so if we bring in LMS we have 5 again. Losing one of Radford or Dowes would mean we lack any cover for the front row.
Nothing definate about Tickle really, although it is more positive.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If Cusack leaves we are down to four props (Rad, Moa, Ogre and Dowes), so if we bring in LMS we have 5 again. Losing one of Radford or Dowes would mean we lack any cover for the front row.
Nothing definate about Tickle really, although it is more positive.'"
or move Hame up to prop and re ignite Burnett again in 2nds therefore replacing Cussack and leaving the cash for a centre etc, with our rep down under or here there has to be scope for a centre now of repute!!
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| Calderwood - 1 year deal, just as good as anything else about, needed for the wing.
Yeaman - 2 year deal, still quality plus home grown.
Dowes - 1 year deal, workhorse prop, good player to have about.
Radford - 1 year deal, aggressive and home grown.
Tickle - 2 year deal, good age, not sure if Burnett is ready to step up yet.
Fitzgibbon - 1 year deal, quality player, hopefully will teach the young ones a thing or two.
Manu - 2 year deal, even more vital now he is fed trained.
Cusack - release even if he doesn't retire, replace with young, British prop, I'd prefer McCarthy Scarsbrook.
Houghton - 2 year deal, short at hooker and valuable due to being home grown.
Whiting - 2 year deal, vital to the squad, does a top job almost anywhere.
Hall - 2 year deal, home grown, still think hes going to be a top centre.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"or move Hame up to prop and re ignite Burnett again in 2nds therefore replacing Cussack and leaving the cash for a centre etc, with our rep down under or here there has to be scope for a centre now of repute!!'"
We won't have a quota spot next year.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We won't have a quota spot next year.'"
course not sorry, thats twice I have done that today sorry
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"course not sorry, thats twice I have done that today sorry
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No worries
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Priorities will be a prop to give us 5 again. Also a centre to replace Hall and provide competition for place with Yeaman and Whiting.
So for me possibly two coming in. LMS would be a very useful addition especialy with him being English and as for a centre I really don't know.'"
Even if Hall was to leave next season I think you have enough depth there, I cant see Yeaman not getting a new contract. I really believe Briscoe should be moved to the centre next season for him to show his best form and play in what looks could be his natural position. So with Yeaman and Briscoe as specialist centres, you also have Turner and Whiting as cover.
Another winger would probably be a good move, I read you guys have a couple of kids coming through who maybe ready for next year. I would maybe take a look at James Nixon at Barrow and see how well he comes back from his injury.
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| Good call on Nixon but can we get the cumbrian players to move as most of them are also employed at Sellarfield arent they??/
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Good call on Nixon but can we get the cumbrian players to move as most of them are also employed at Sellarfield arent they??/'"
It is but he is a young lad and I'm sure he will have big ambitions. I like the look of him, only slight but has pace to burn.
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| Calderwood : 1 year deal with a year option dependant on injuries
Yeaman : For me No unless he plays out of his skin for the remainder of the year
Dowes : 2 year deal for me
Radford : Get rid best rugby been and gone IMO.
Tickle : Definitely providing he wants to stay. If so 2 year deal for me
Fitzgibbon : Providing no serious injuries etc 1 year deal
Manu : 2 year deal
Cusack : Retiring but still would not offer new deal with quota and age being factors
Houghton : need to keep our homegrown talent. Still potential to fulfill but 2 year deal
Whiting ; ultimate clubman and never lets us down. 3 year deal
Hall : great potential and homegrown. needs to continue to show improvement as shown on return last year. 2 year deal
Would let yeaman go on the basis we would have hall, briscoe and turner vying for starting centre spots with whiting also available to cover there. whiting to get regular gametime in the pack for me if either or both fitz and tickle are not signed on.
with briscoe in the centres (in this hypothetical situation) would look at either another established non quota winger or simply promote from within with lyne, tuffour and j.briscoe all hopefully able to have a few games each next year.
definitely need a new prop with radford and susack going so would need a non quota prop (LMS for me) and look to promote from within if possible or look at other clubs young props. if this isn't possible then i would look at lauaki and possibly fitz to do a stint or 2 in the front row
now take it to pieces if you wish
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Good post east hull fc fan.
IMO if calderwood has gone injury prone we need two wingers, and move briscoe to the centres.'"
Spot on.
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| Its obviousl we need a winger and a young 7.
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| Depending on how Calderwood goes after his injury, I think we did one winger. Lyne will be on one wing next season I am sure about that. Tuffour as back up. I would look to sign Richard Owen from Cas who can play wing or FB, Colborn who is a good player better than people give him credit for, Goulding our Ainscough from Wigan could also be options.
A young prop to replace Radford, LMS, Scruton, Watts or Burgess would be my choice.
Moa to reaplace Cuscack, Hame as back up prop.
We have 2 very good halfbacks in the reserves (watch the hightlights on under 20's to see how good these are) and maybe working with Long (which I have heard they are) should really help them.
We really should be on the look out for any top player that becomes available.
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