Definetly worth a one year deal imo.

Very good defence, good ideas in attack, when we get the ball to him that is - and that has improved, which is another good reason to keep quality wingers imo. Does need to work a bit on defending kicks though imo.

what other english wingers are they that we could get hall - no chance, fox-again dont think so, raynor-no, hodgson-is he better then calderwood no, cudjoe-good player but not a specilist winger who is still young himself, ainscough - POTENTIAL has his faults but looks a great young player and dont think wigan are that keen or he would be in there team so maybe but i think we need experience. so for me i would keep calderwood unless leeds wanted rid of hall but doubt it haha are they any better english wingers then calderwood apart from hall

Calders has proved me wrong with his work ethic and attitude. There doesn't seem to be a lost cause to him. However, I think he's terrible at finishing. He can have a two metre gap but instead of diving in, he'll cut inside. He also never seems to back his pace and take the opposition on on the outside. I personally think it would be criminal to deprive the young lads a chance but also think it would be harsh on Calders to let him go. Maybe there is another solution such as Briscoe to the centres which obviously raises questions on Hall/Yeaman.

I don't think Hall is better than Calderwood.

I kind of agree with Dave.

As much as I like Calders I've never been a big an of spending lots of money on a winger (I don't know what he earns but I would imagine it is a decent wage). With Lyne knocking on the door who is probably bigger, faster and stronger is it worth keeping him? I suppose I would give him one more year to see how Lyne and Tuffour develop. Tbh we are spoilt for young 3 quarter talent atm. It will be difficult to accomodate T Briscoe, Hall, Lyne, Yeaman, Calders, Turner and Tuffour in the same side, all of which either are, or have the makings of quality players.

Ryan Hall is nothing special imo. Another solid English winger who scores bags of tries because of the players inside him. If you put him in our team last year he would have been no better than Calders what so ever.

He certainly didn't look bigger against Rovers! However, he did back his pace and burned down the wing before getting effectively punched in the face!

i agree about him scoring lots of tries becasue of players inside him but hes a good winger who scored lots of individual tries long range ones ect and ryan hall is better then calderwood

Been mentioned that we are looking at Aaron Murphy from Wakey tho hasnt it ?

i've got the feeling we didn't spend big to get him here, Wigan released him, and noone else seemed to want him. So I woulden't be surprised if we got a bit of bargain.

Calderwood aint a patch on Ryan Hall and I think you guys should let him go at the end of his contract if these young lads coming through are as good as some say on here.

would give Calderwood another year, by then we'll know if the young lads are ready to make the grade!

In what ways is Ryan Hall so far superior to Calderwood?

I get the feeling that, if he gets a bit of service this season, a few people are going to be eating their words.

Well apart from possibly the kick chase, Hall in every other department for me.

yeah he works hard but he is sh$te, look at his returns, he is like a little fairy, i have never rated the kid there are plenty of other wingers we can spend the money on.

you have to be crackers if you think he is as good as you work out, look at the ruturn balls he runs in, he drops before the defence get to him, he can be really bad under the high ball he is absolutely sh$te id spend the money some where else

Thanks for your comments. But given that you reckon Berrigan has played over 95% of his games for Hull at hooker and is "very average", I think we can discount your opinions of FC players. No offence.

You are obviously as good a student of the game as you are the English language.

Care to name these other departments so your argument is more evidentially sound ??

I can't see why so many people are so keen to get rid of him. He's a quality English winger with bags of big game experience and he's still only 28!!

For me Calderwood was our player of the year last season (albeit not many to pick from), he tackles everything, gives 110% and always looks committed and enthusiastic. He hasn't had a great deal of service which probably explains his lack of tries but with Longy providing some kicks to run onto and a few ball handlers chucking long passes out wide that could all be about to change. Definatley worth a new deal in my mind.

Have to agree, both decent defence and equally as quick.

Hall is better with the high ball, is alot sronger, he makes good yards and make breaks something Calderwood rarley does. The main reason I would consider (if we have a replacement lined up) let him go.

So did G Horne, Ok winger, basically he got fans player of the year as he was enthusiactic and tried hard, while others didnt.

Seems pointless with the players with having coming through.

A prop to replace Cusack should be what we are looking at, either LMS, Watts or Scruton.

Watts would be the one I would make a move for.

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I bet Smailes has been reading this board again.

Cant argue with what he has to say though.