The last 2 seasons we've been forced to change things because of injury. This season we have the luxury up to now of having these kind of debates. Horses for courses though for me, heavy ground makes Whiting a better option at centre. Firmer ground and Hally is the best centre we have.



I know Calders has his faults, simple choice for me though is that he is an International winger and brings something extra to that position than Hally does. As ive said though, Calders wont be back so no debate this week. I hope we hammer Celtic and Hally scores 3 so we can have this debate again next week.

Calderwood in for Hall if he's fit. Then Moa in for one of Radford, Cusack or Dowes.

Atm....resigning Moa looks a mistake as our props are playing superbly.

Defensively yes, but, the 3 I mentioned though don't offer enough impact.

Got enough impact elsewhere.

Not last night we didn't, Manu was quiet and Lauaki was targetted in defence. Only O'Meley who made a lot of yards and pushed them back last night. No other impact really.

And Moa would have been targetted in defence..Moa is developing nicely however he is not as good as either Manu or Lauakai imo

Like mentioned in another thread, Hudds have the best defence in the league and our guys did very very well...

Crabtree actually owned Hame (who bounced of him)..Moa would have done no better.

One player I would be tempted to rotate would be Fitzgibbon. I know he has been superb in the past two games so stay with me here.
He gets through a phenomenal amount of work in both attack and defence but I wonder if he can keep that up for an entire season. We have a good LF in Washbrook sat in the stands and I'd think about rotating Fitz with Washy for the Crusaders game.
Obviously Fitz and Agar know best whether the excellent workrate can be sustained every week. If so then fantastic but it's just a thought.

Not really a mistake, you need more than four props for a season due to injuries etc, Moa is our backup prop, and will get plenty of gametime i'm sure. Could be in on sunday if radders is out

So your saying keep the same team till we get beat ? The sign of a good coach is knowing when to make changes even when winning . Personally i think we should rotate some of our pack , we have moa washy and burnett who havent played yet .Id rest a couple and try and keep them all fresh because come easter when we have 3 games in 8 days theyll all be needed .

1.tansey
2.calderwood(if fit)
3.whiting
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.horne
7.long
8.radders
9.berrigan
10.omeeley
11.tickle
12.manu
13.fitzgibbon
subs
14.washbrook
15.lauaki
16.dowes
17.moa
cusack for radders if he aint 100% fit

I agree that out the 3 Moa comes 3rd but if we had Lauaki and Moa on the pitch at the same time both couldnt be targetted and if they were targetted it would be half as much. In my opinion a bench should be used as impact, so Houghton, Lauaki, O'Meley and Moa would be a great bench.

Moa for Radford if required, shoulder injuries usually do well with a bit of rest, other than that leave well alone if Calderwood isn't going to be fit. Still think we need lots of game time to blend the team together, though we have performed well I thought we looked like we were lacking a bit of co-ordination going forward. Need to get Longy, Horney, Tansey ( there's one, do you call Tansey, Tanseyey....) Fitz and Berro on the pitch together as much as possible so combinations can be worked on.

You just have to get Washbrook in, what has Danny Houghton done to you, or are you Washy's younger and less talented brother??
At least you seem to be leaving Whiting alone now!

Good opportunity for Moa, Washbrook and Turner to get some game time and maybe a rest for a couple of players. I would expect at least one or possibly two of the above to make the 17.

Not necessarily feilding an understrength side but more of a case of rotating some of our players and taking advantage of the genuine strength in depth of our squad.

ill say it agin we look alot better team with berrigan on the pitch and we need long, horne, tansey and berro to get a bit of consitensey playing together and the luxury of having washy is that he can fill in at hooker if needed also can rotate in the backrow.ive never slated whiting hes a good utility player hes our best right centre at the moment.

Agreed we look better with Berro on the pitch but I would like to see 60mins of top notch Berro rather than a lowering of standards if he stays on for 80 which I suspect would happen. If this is what is going to happen then I would suggest we carry a 2nd specialist hooker on the bench, personally I see Washy as a luxury we cant afford/dont need to carry. Plenty of other options in the team already, look how many positions Whiting can cover if needed.

At the moment, I think Moa & Luakai on at the same time would leave us exposed defensively not some-thing you can afford to do against an outfit like Hudds..

Crabtree owns Moa


How much did he pay for him.??

Quite. He's had a few bad seasons with injuries and now needs to be kept in the side to give him the regular game time he's been missing. The last two games have shown just what a good quality player he is and it would be foolish to replace him with anyone.

Did you mis-read my post

NO please tell me how much he payed if he owns him?

Firstly if you read my post I was referring to Hame Luaikai in response to "would Moa have offered more than some in last night match"..

Owned is a term used in rugby it basically means who got the better of who..

Luaikai was wrapped up well by Crabtree, and when Luaikai attempted to tackle him at one point he bounced of him..often referred to as Owned..OK

Id just prefer it in English rather than Yanky gang speak.
Why was Crabtree wrapping Luaiki up?? was he cold or summat

And in forum terms it is usually applied to Mrs B's accountancy posts on the Rovers forum



Methinks KC Bri is just being pedantic now regarding his query on 'Wrapping' a player up. It is common to wrap a player up to prevent an offload.