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| Quote ="3DaysGrace"Nothing justifies £12bn+ on a 3 week sporting event that will leave a massive stadium, pool and other infrastructure as its legacy. Not to mention a sporting village and media centre.
I'd sooner see Police, Nurses and Carers given the benefit of massive funding than someone I've never heard of collect a silver medal for archery.'"
Didnt seem to affect the previous Citys who have had the Olympics does it.We may as well not bid for anything and become a backwater country.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Didnt seem to affect the previous Citys who have had the Olympics does it.We may as well not bid for anything and become a backwater country.'"
Problem with people like 3days is they think the 12bn has gone on the stadium, they have no concept of hoe regeneration works, or that a portion of the money has been raised privately.
There will be no "giant stadium" left, and the facilities that do remain will benefit future generations, they are the kind of people that lament the demise of the milkman, pit poneys, davey lamp and powdered egg.
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| city's have been planning for this for a long time not on a wim all you have to do is look at the city's that have put forward there bid's and see how much work they have already undertaken regarding infurstructure hotel's ect 35,000 probably an ideal size although hull's infurstructure is the let down
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| Quote ="snaflr"city's have been planning for this for a long time not on a wim all you have to do is look at the city's that have put forward there bid's and see how much work they have already undertaken regarding infurstructure hotel's ect 35,000 probably an ideal size although hull's infurstructure is the let down'"
Hull has been planning for this for a long time too, the infrastructure is an interesting point. What in particular do you think isnt up to it?
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| tram system expansions taking place in the majority of citys that have put there bids in just for a start to replace buses that just could'nt cope with the extra influx for a start .
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| most of those city's already have stadiums over 30,000 aswell so the extra expense can be put into better facility's rather than ground upgrades
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| Quote ="snaflr"tram system expansions taking place in the majority of citys that have put there bids in just for a start to replace buses that just could'nt cope with the extra influx for a start .'"
nothing to do with the WC bid, any city that has spent money already has made a mistake, until you get confirmed as a bid city then you just keep the capital aside.
based on a conversation I had today, I think Hull will be in the twelve named as hosts, we await Tuesday.
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| mite not be anything to do with the world cup bid but the expenditure of the internal transport systems are sorted and dont need to be budgeted for therfore if there bids are sucesful they will have far more money to spend on other things
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| Quote ="snaflr"mite not be anything to do with the world cup bid but the expenditure of the internal transport systems are sorted and dont need to be budgeted for'"
which world do you live in?
So, of the city's bidding, who has shelled out on trams in recent times?
Leeds?
Derby?
Sheffield was ages ago, paid for by Meadowhall
Leicester
Nottingham was years ago, paid for by Europe
deal in facts, not the mush between your ears.
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| facts are there they mite not have paid for them they are up and running and expanding fact
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| because they have'nt sat on there s and waited for the next bus to come along fact
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| Quote ="snaflr"facts are there they mite not have paid for them they are up and running and expanding fact'"
You know nothing, which is duly noted.
Why don't you crawl back under your rock?
And neither Sheffield nor Nottingham are expanding, in fact, there are no expanding tram networks at the current time.
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| so where's that comming from then !!!!
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| Quote ="snaflr"so where's that comming from then !!!!'"
late July 2009, funding subsequently "reconsidered"
try and be recent
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| Quote ="Standee"You know nothing, which is duly noted.
Why don't you crawl back under your rock?
And neither Sheffield nor Nottingham are expanding, in fact, there are no expanding tram networks at the current time.'"
You really are an arrogant prat.
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| wher's hulls then ffs havent even got a line laid wakeup
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| do you actualy know how long it takes to build a decent infurstructure duly noted you know jack !!!
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| Quote ="snaflr"wher's hulls then ffs havent even got a line laid wakeup'"
Hull doesn't need one, it's not as spread out as Nottingham or Sheffield.
Remember, trams reduce the ability of other traffic to use the City centre, Hull is much better set out than Sheffield or Nottingham, and the stadium is a short walk from the City centre, whereas in Sheffield and Nottingham they are a little further away.
You're "talking" to one of Hull's biggest critics, but your point is as hapless as you are.
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| And i've walked to all those grounds and you obviously havent
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| take the m1 coridor for instance which of these city's is easier to get to from a major motorway with tram systems that run from it's junctions
hull
nottingham
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| Quote ="snaflr"And i've walked to all those grounds and you obviously havent'"
Indeed I have, numerous times, Leicester and Derby have much better grounds than Nottingham or Sheffield, longer walks than the KC.
I'll leave it here, I find arguing with stupid people quite tiresome, especially when there's finally a decent film on tv for a change.
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| well if you can argue with someone over a transport system you must be tedious when the fact's you require have been prestented therfore your 24000 plus post are actualy drivell
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| Quote ="snaflr"well if you can argue with someone over a transport system you must be tedious when the fact's you require have been prestented therfore your 24000 plus post are actualy drivell'"
you've offered opinion, not facts.
we shall see what Tuesday brings.
Sheffield and Nottingham have crap stadia.
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| well then and you have opposed my opinion as you usually do so jog on and play
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