He was behind good packs at both those clubs and was behind a pack for Rovers that were incredibly lucky that they had very few injuries and all of the competition seemed to be under performing.

Welham and Hall.....Hall is sheer class and a damn sight more skillful and a better strike player....how many tries did Welham get in a "superior" team to Hall in a "inferior" team...Hall can score tries out of nothing....i havent seen Welham do this or have the ability to do it.

I would have Manu in the backrow with Newton and Galea at 13...that way you have a bruiser in Newton....a tackle buster in Manu and a creative 13 in Galea.

As for Dobson and Long.....lets see what Dobson wins in his career before you dismiss long.

Hows for for a reasonable debate.............and my idiot is still waiting for your brain.

As was Cooke! Thats my point. Horne is still a far better 6 than Cooke ever will be. Remind me which one has played for GB?

Fair point. But if Hall goes down the class scale on that basis Welham will drop off the bottom.

You would have Fitz in the back row?

On the wing or in his favoured position?

Cooke was no way worse than Horne last season!

As i said earlier in the thread, ive not selected my side based on form alone. Cooke has been poor since signing for Rovers though, and at least Horne had a legitimate reason last season.

I would but am going on last season...it would be unfair to judge this seasons squads without seeing them play BUT i cant wait to see O'Meley,Fitz,Manu,Lauaki,Moa all on the same time splattering their pack all over.

Manu is over-rated and is not in the same league as both Newton and Galea. Has he ever been consistant?

Washy will never make the standard you seem to think he could achieve.

I was looking to next season as i think Rovers have gone backwards and we've progressed with recruitment spectacularly.

Rovers pack performed well last season and Dobson worked well behind them, simple really.

I'd swap Grudgell for the guy that serves behind the bar in the south stand.

Morgans gameplan for the last Craven park derby ed around stopping 2 Hull players, Berrigan and can you guess the other one?

Consistency is his challenge. But then the way Newton and Galea played for the 2nd half of last season you could argue the same.

Guess Morgan thought Washy was a decent played when he tried to sign him up, same as Hally.

Pointless thread really as you wont agree that some of ours are better than yours will you.

Yes he has....have your 2 as they was both gash the last few wks and in the play-offs they was non-exsistent.

Cooke ?

What about next season as your pack is a damn sight weaker....lets see how he does then,simple really.

Yet both made the Dream Team!

Washy is decent but wont make international level, same as Murrell.

Manu has never been consistent and along with his fitness are his biggest let downs. The odd good game aint enough for the way some of you go OTT about him.

Yup, that was my point really. Dobson the world beater may suddenly become Dobson the average liability.

Hall was dropped after filling in at F/B and out of posistion and came back a better player for it and scored tries for fun....no shame in being loaned out and i bet he still scored more trys after he came back than Welham did all season.

As for Dobson and Long....was Dobson playing in the play-offs and at Least long could tackle the Wigan players unlike Dobson......has he still got Richards boot marks on his shirt where he ran over him.

Moi Moi unveiled on Monday just before the Online lie detector test !!

Cant you at least wait till our squad is complete before we make any judgements, 2 good signings, possibly even 1 and the pack looks good again.

Kevin Penny made the dream team....dream team means sod all.

Same can be said about some of your players.