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| Quote ="Suzie"We'll have to agree to disagree here because for me he had a good game tonight. We've needed somebody to organise the team for years and there's not many better at it than Long.'"
I hope your right, and we do need an organiser.
But more important we need an explosive general that creates for the likes of Horne,
Manu and Yeaman gaps have to be created nowadays in my opinion
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"We needed a scrum half, we've signed one of the best around, end of discussion. Some people are never happy.'"
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Thanking you kindly.
Good question! It is believed that Eastmond turned down an offer from Saints and there are rumours he is heading for Sale Sharks RU. Since he has the same agent as Richie Myler, it's anyone's guess as to what he is going to do. It seems we are keeping tabs on young Matty Smith as he is on a month by month loan to Salford. Matty helped to get us to the 2007 Grand Final when Longy was out injured and while some think he is not a very creative scrum half, he is an organising one and an extremely good kicker (oh how we need a good kicker!). However, it's all up in the air at present. Next season certainly looks, er, interesting!'"
martin offiah, imagine he'll have contacts in both codes so could be some truth in it, hope not big blow to english rugby league
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"eusa_clap.gif'"
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"You have the makings of an awesome pack next year, but then go-forward wasnt your problem this year. If Long stays fit and you have a break from injuries I will suggest that if you had Cooke along side Long you would make top 3.'"
Get frigged knöbhead. Cooke is the answer to all.
But thanks for your interest in Hull's premier and original rugby league team.
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| he claims we are buying him a house in todays Sun
doesn't he realise that Hull are stingy they probably meant a Wendy House!
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| i recon that if senior or gidley had pulled off that tackle then eddie,stevo and clarky would have shot there load over it...it was a class tackle but what was the wigan lad thinking?? was it mc illorum??
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| Quote ="jersey mark"I was watching without the emotional Sean Long tinted glasses,
he was noticed tonight by his two try saving tackles,
we have a full team that do that i want a creative scrum halve that opens teams up,
not one that stands at first reciever and shouts now and again. Dont get me wrong,
hell of a player two years ago in a quality side, but now past his best unfortunately for us.'"
I have a lot of time for Hull fans. I've enjoyed some good chats and banter with them, win or lose. But you are sounding a bit daft. I don't think any Saints fan would claim you are getting Sean Long at the peak of his career. That happened a few years ago. However, to claim that all he does is stand at first receiver and shouts now and again is, well, just daft. You need to watch him more closely and educate yourself.
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| Think Long is an ok signing. Can't argue with his pedigree but we're not exactly going to build a team around him. My only worry is that if he gets injured were pretty much back to where we are now. Good go forward with no clue in the last 20. I fear another poor season unless we sign a stand off and move Horne.
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| He is just what we need he is stong,organises, inspires and has the respect of those around him, something we are used to at scrum half... Not!
He will come in and do what Kieth Hepworth and Kevin Dick dd in the past, those two tackle last night showed real determination and were first class and the try he scored was down to sheer strenght and desire. I thought it was interesting what Wilkin said after the game about Saints having in the past relied on slight of foot and being quick off the mark to win games, now he says the forwards are becoming more and more involved with the out come of mtches. Long has adapted his game to suit that style of play.
Next season there will I believe be a lot of slugathons and our new pack should be well suited to that!
He's a character and a winner and He'll do for me!
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| Quote ="jersey mark"After watching his last few games i thought he was very average, some awfull passes, that bounced very kindly and kicks that were not too impressive either.
=darkblueRegarding the poor passes and unimpressive kicks: some of that could have been down to the windy conditions. I'll ask the question, of all the quality scrum halves on show over the last few games, how many have outshone Sean Long by some distance?
If it was'nt for his try saving tackles he would nt have been mentioned tonght.
Was not happy with his signing at first, now even more unsure.
=darkblueHe deserves the accolades for those tackles, did we see Thorman tackling like that last season?'"
I'm willing to give him a chance to prove himself before criticising (Just as I did with Thorman)
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| Quote ="UllFC"he claims we are buying him a house in todays Sun
doesn't he realise that Hull are stingy they probably meant a Wendy House!'"
Wonder if we've told the salary cap guys about the house?
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He is just what we need he is stong,organises, inspires and has the respect of those around him, something we are used to at scrum half... Not!
He will come in and do what Kieth Hepworth and Kevin Dick dd in the past, those two tackle last night showed real determination and were first class and the try he scored was down to sheer strenght and desire. I thought it was interesting what Wilkin said after the game about Saints having in the past relied on slight of foot and being quick off the mark to win games, now he says the forwards are becoming more and more involved with the out come of mtches. Long has adapted his game to suit that style of play.
Next season there will I believe be a lot of slugathons and our new pack should be well suited to that!
He's a character and a winner and He'll do for me!'"
How do you expect the majority on here to understand about these two Wilf?
I think when you actually watch what Long did last night we will all see just what he will bring. The pass to Meli for his second try, whilst not hitting the man as desired showed the vision (despite the eye injury) that we lack. There was ample time for Meli to gather and score before the defence got to him. He negated the sliding defence with that one pass. I hate to say it but we have not had that since Cooke. As a result I hope we see Raynor and Calderwood in the top 10 try scorers next year.
His cover tackles were precisely what you would expect of a SH. He was battling for his team all night.
He will also be on the field as the general we need. Encouraging the young lads and dictating the pace of the game. He will also help develop the players off the field on the training ground. In a similar way to Kearney when he was here and Jason Smith before him.
Other than that I totally agree with the man from Jersey a waste of a signing.
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| Biggest challenge will be keeping him on the pitch ever week IMO
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| Quote ="hfc herts"How do you expect the majority on here to understand about these two Wilf?
I think when you actually watch what Long did last night we will all see just what he will bring. The pass to Meli for his second try, whilst not hitting the man as desired showed the vision (despite the eye injury) that we lack. There was ample time for Meli to gather and score before the defence got to him. He negated the sliding defence with that one pass. I hate to say it but we have not had that since Cooke. As a result I hope we see Raynor and Calderwood in the top 10 try scorers next year.
His cover tackles were precisely what you would expect of a SH. He was battling for his team all night.
He will also be on the field as the general we need. Encouraging the young lads and dictating the pace of the game. He will also help develop the players off the field on the training ground. In a similar way to Kearney when he was here and Jason Smith before him.
Other than that I totally agree with the man from Jersey a waste of a signing.
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Where did i say he was a waste of a signing
i said is he the answer in my opinion no
IS being the operative word try reading the post first
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| Quote ="jersey mark"Where did i say he was a waste of a signing
i said is he the answer in my opinion no
IS being the operative word try reading the post first'"
Actually I was stating he is a waste of a signing.
If you seriously can't see what he will bring to the club then you need to be educated. One man is never the answer. Over the years I have witnessed many a side get excited about one player.
Wakefield with Wally Lewis, Wire with Johns, Rovers with Cooke
The last time I watched RL it was a team game. A sum of 17 individual parts coming together as one. Supported by a squad of players and the back room staff. Long will bring a massive wealth of experience and big match know how. Together with Fitz and O'meley plus the experience we already have I am sure we will improve massively.
People are expecting alot of Long and his salary reflects that, but in answer to your question, no he is not the answer simply because its a TEAM GAME. But boy will he assist us along the way, on and off the pitch.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"Actually I was stating he is a waste of a signing.
If you seriously can't see what he will bring to the club then you need to be educated. One man is never the answer. Over the years I have witnessed many a side get excited about one player.
Wakefield with Wally Lewis, Wire with Johns, Rovers with Cooke
The last time I watched RL it was a team game. A sum of 17 individual parts coming together as one. Supported by a squad of players and the back room staff. Long will bring a massive wealth of experience and big match know how. Together with Fitz and O'meley plus the experience we already have I am sure we will improve massively.
People are expecting alot of Long and his salary reflects that, but in answer to your question, no he is not the answer simply because its a TEAM GAME. But boy will he assist us along the way, on and off the pitch.'" In short hes part of the answer.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"Actually I was stating he is a waste of a signing.
If you seriously can't see what he will bring to the club then you need to be educated. One man is never the answer. Over the years I have witnessed many a side get excited about one player.
Wakefield with Wally Lewis, Wire with Johns, Rovers with Cooke
The last time I watched RL it was a team game. A sum of 17 individual parts coming together as one. Supported by a squad of players and the back room staff. Long will bring a massive wealth of experience and big match know how. Together with Fitz and O'meley plus the experience we already have I am sure we will improve massively.
People are expecting alot of Long and his salary reflects that, but in answer to your question, no he is not the answer simply because its a TEAM GAME. But boy will he assist us along the way, on and off the pitch.'"
I dont need to be educated,I am an ex professional player for Hull Fc and played at all levels at school boy through to international level and coached on Hull Fc scholarship, as well as coaching local amateur. If you dont think that a world class scrum half who can create the spaces we need, is not the answer, then you need educating
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wonder if we've told the salary cap guys about the house?'"
What has that got to do with anything?
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| longy will do for us will be even better when he brings his mate with him
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| they got him more for the coaching side of things for the younger players i think he will play the first year then will be coaching that why he got the 2 years
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| Quote ="jersey mark"I dont need to be educated,I am an ex professional player for Hull Fc and played at all levels at school boy through to international level and coached on Hull Fc scholarship, as well as coaching local amateur. If you dont think that a world class scrum half who can create the spaces we need, is not the answer, then you need educating'"
You asked if he is the answer. I have stated that he is not the total answer. We had far more problems than just a lack of scrum half this season. I do think we need a world class scrum half, every team does. Though you can count on one hand the number of world class SH in the RL world and Long is the only one in the UK. Long is a start. I fear possibly like you that we will rest on our laurals for 2 years and not bring anyone through. But given your apparent knowledge you will also know that it takes more than just one player to make a team as I have stated.
So who are you then? Name yourself so I can stop questioning your education.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wonder if we've told the salary cap guys about the house?'"
As I understand it, we don't need to its a club house at the end of the day, and an off field asset we hav'nt given it to him just let him live there!!!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He's a character and a winner and He'll do for me!'"
You'll feel even more like that when he kicks a cheeky last minute drop goal to win you a derby match.
On the point about the pass to Meli, did he fire it slightly behind Meli or did Meli slightly over-run it?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You'll feel even more like that when he kicks a cheeky last minute drop goal to win you a derby match.
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As i've said on here before, that's exactly what we need. He's unpredictable - you never know what he's going to do next.
Good luck next week btw.
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