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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"More visionary than the majority on here. Can you post a link to your own concerns on his appointment at the time, just so I can check where your tingue was'"
I had concerns about Agar (and posted them) before Peter Sharp got the bullet. However, I don't feel the need to rub people's noses in it at every available opportunity.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Can't I? So when cusack, radford and maybe king are turning out for us next season and moa is playing for hudds or the dobbins will you be praising his retention?'" You are the biggest straw clutcher of all time.
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Quote ="Kosh"I had concerns about Agar (and posted them) before Peter Sharp got the bullet. However, I don't feel the need to rub people's noses in it at every available opportunity.'"
Allow me, then :
viewtopic.php? ... c&start=18
Interesting the warmth at the time for the outgoing Sharp as well:
viewtopic.php?t=355399
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Quote ="Kosh"I had concerns about Agar (and posted them) before Peter Sharp got the bullet. However, I don't feel the need to rub people's noses in it at every available opportunity.'"
Allow me, then :
viewtopic.php? ... c&start=18
Interesting the warmth at the time for the outgoing Sharp as well:
viewtopic.php?t=355399
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"And you're overly optimistic. How do you know kingy's gone? How do you know moa will be signed?
Is this all pillow talk from agar?'" Im not overly optimistic, I can just see that this is one area we are doing a lot better in. All the major areas of need have been adressed, the well known trouble makers are on there way out and our best youngsters are being tied down to long contracts, these are facts nobody can deny.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"More visionary than the majority on here. Can you post a link to your own concerns on his appointment at the time, just so I can check where your tingue was'"
Spend a few hours checking back and you'll realise I'm right
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| Fwiw I dont believe agar signed all the players or resigned current ones, I do believe rule and hetherington have learnt their lesson over length's of contracts given to australian players.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Fwiw I dont believe agar signed all the players or resigned current ones, I do believe rule and hetherington have learnt their lesson over length's of contracts given to australian players.'"
and made sure they had favourable to the club injury clauses included.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Im not overly optimistic, I can just see that this is one area we are doing a lot better in. All the major areas of need have been adressed, the well known trouble makers are on there way out and our best youngsters are being tied down to long contracts, these are facts nobody can deny.'"
We could hardly have done any worse to be fair. We're pinning our hopes on ageing players by and large which is a high risk strategy. It may come off or it may fall flat and we'll be back to where we've been most of the last 3 seasons. They're also short term fixes so let's hope they're also planning for the longer term
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We could hardly have done any worse to be fair.'"
So you admit were doing better?
Quote ="Jake the Peg" We're pinning our hopes on ageing players by and large which is a high risk strategy. It may come off or it may fall flat and we'll be back to where we've been most of the last 3 seasons.'"
That I agree with you on, there is plenty evidence to suggest both, but at least they are adressing the right areas!
Quote ="Jake the Peg" They're also short term fixes so let's hope they're also planning for the longer term'"
Briscoe and washy are our 2 best players and are signed to long contracts, plus the kid from the acadamy being given a contract. Also our u18s have a few very promising players.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"More visionary than the majority on here.'"
LMFAO
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So you admit were doing better? '"
Yeah, but having my arm chopped off may be better than losing a leg but doesn't mean either are great options
Quote ="east hull FC fan"That I agree with you on, there is plenty evidence to suggest both, but at least they are adressing the right areas!'"
Any fool can see where we're deficient and throw some money at someone to top up their retirement fund. Doesn't make it a good decision. Personally, I think the signing of long may turn out a poor decision based on his high likelihood of injury.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"Briscoe and washy are our 2 best players and are signed to long contracts, plus the kid from the acadamy being given a contract. Also our u18s have a few very promising players.'"
All well and good but none of them are the top quality half backs the club needs to start prodcuing although long may have a positive impact in this area.
Nothing alters the fact agar is a shiite coach anyway
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"LMFAO'"
And you know it's true, you were my first disciple
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| im sure agar will keep hold of moa instead of waiting on to see what aussies are available with a lot of the nrl clubs getting closer to their salary caps for next season. if rumours are true were to get rid of king,thacks and maloney i cant see him letting another prop go especially the size of moa
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| There is absolutely no doubt Richard Agar is staying for at least a year, the best we can hope for is that Longey & fitzgibbon chips in with some coaching and advice. The team IS starting to look good on paper nobody can deny that! I just cant see Shaun Long sat in a losers changing room every week without saying something.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"And you know it's true, you were my first disciple
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| When we have worked out his recruitment and retention policy can we have a crack at his team selection & substitution policy.
Because it has been baffling me for ages
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I can't help it if I worked out that agar is shiite whilst you lot were still sticking your tongues up his ass can I?'"
So,on that statement everybody is out of step but you?
I am no Agar fan,but I am prepared to listen to other peoples points of view about him ,without resorting to insults.
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| Quote ="Ian P"selection & substitution policy'"
A wise man once said:
"that which doth not exist, no man can perplex"
or, in modern language "he makes it up as he goes along"
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| I think they have made a massive gamble on the recruitment. Long has been the best British SH by far over the past 10 years, but how many games has he got left in him and how motivated will he be? Fitzgibbon has been one of the most consistent forwards in the NRL over the last decade, rarely missing a game and often topping the tackle count – has he got anything left in him? Neither of them are spring chickens. O’Meley is currently out injured and has not been anything special for the past couple of years, are we expecting too much from him?
Like someone has already stated, it is too early to tell. If they all arrive, if they stay fit and if they produce the form we know they are capable of then yes, we will go very well next year. Any new recruit is a gamble, it just seems that Hull gamble more then most of the other clubs.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"iit just seems that Hull gamble more then most of the other clubs.'"
I'd disagree with that, it's because we haven't made the right choices in the past so find we have a load of average players to replace at the same time.
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| Quote ="Standee"I'd disagree with that, it's because we haven't made the right choices in the past so find we have a load of average players to replace at the same time.'"
How many other clubs bring in, and put all their expectations on a couple of 33 year olds? If that isn’t a gamble I don’t know what is.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"How many other clubs bring in, and put all their expectations on a couple of 33 year olds? If that isn’t a gamble I don’t know what is.'"
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