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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Not what I was told. However much of an idiot the guy was for doing it, Rule wouldn't want it getting out that he was getting into rucks with his own club's fans..'"
I know the guy (rovers fan) involved but it sounds like much ado about nothing TBH.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"icon_lol.gif
I know the guy (rovers fan) involved but it sounds like much ado about nothing TBH.'"
Fair enough, the guy who told me works in the bar where they took Rule to get cleaned up, but he knows nothing about rugby tbf so maybe he got that part wrong.
As for the Agar thing, I think its hugely unprofessional to be doing that, I can see the argument that it's just helping out a friend, but it just looks so bad and is an indicator of the lack of respect and matey attitude the players have towards him. In itself it's not a reason for Agar to get fired, but as a signal of how he's running things and how the playing staff regard him then it definately is.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Fair enough, the guy who told me works in the bar where they took Rule to get cleaned up, but he knows nothing about rugby tbf so maybe he got that part wrong.
As for the Agar thing, I think its hugely unprofessional to be doing that, I can see the argument that it's just helping out a friend, but it just looks so bad and is an indicator of the lack of respect and matey attitude the players have towards him. In itself it's not a reason for Agar to get fired, but as a signal of how he's running things and how the playing staff regard him then it definately is.'"
Sorry I am not going with that, I could tell you stories about the great legend Arthur bunting and his relationships with the lads, Knocker, Sterlo etc which make this thread a joke, honestly we are all very much aware of Agars short comings and we finally all agree he needs replacing but this imo is pathetic.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"It was an FC fan, he went over to have a go at Rule and was being quite abusive so Rule offered him to go outside, the guy punched rule there and then and busted his face/nose. Not really Rules fault but hardly professional of him to offer the guy out.'"
Considering I was stood in the bar next to this incident I can say with good authority that all of the above is bullox. It was indeed a Rovers fan and his actions deserved a lot more than the few decent digs JR gave back in self defence !!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Sorry I am not going with that, I could tell you stories about the great legend Arthur bunting and his relationships with the lads, Knocker, Sterlo etc which make this thread a joke, honestly we are all very much aware of Agars short comings and we finally all agree he needs replacing but this imo is pathetic.'"
A different era with different standards.
Why do so many people struggle to realise that RL is now a professional sport and the way things were done back in the day is no longer acceptable?
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| Anyhow forgetting the past what is problem with sharing a bedroom floor ??
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Sorry I am not going with that, I could tell you stories about the great legend Arthur bunting and his relationships with the lads, Knocker, Sterlo etc which make this thread a joke, honestly we are all very much aware of Agars short comings and we finally all agree he needs replacing but this imo is pathetic.'"
But the sport has moved on so far since the 1980s, I'm not for a moment comparing Bunting to Agar but what could make you successful then would not work now because the elite teams are taking everything so much more seriously in terms of professionalism and meticulous approach to preparation. On top of this, Bunting clearly had the respect of the players anyway from what I've read and been told (he was before my time), Agar doesn't have this so the least he should be doing is putting a respectful distance between himself and the players.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Anyhow forgetting the past what is problem with sharing a bedroom floor ??'"
Agar was on the floor as well?
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| Im not sure anymore, So in the room was Cordoba, his bird, her brother, Agar and the OP's mate !!
Is that right ??
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agar was on the floor as well?
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He'd given his bed up for Berrigan's brother's accountant.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Anyhow forgetting the past what is problem with sharing a bedroom floor ??'"
Carpet burns!
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| Quote ="Kosh"A different era with different standards.
Why do so many people struggle to realise that RL is now a professional sport and the way things were done back in the day is no longer acceptable?'"
I disagree Kosh, some of the greatest players came from that era, the mentality of the players was possibly more professional, the players were generally semi-pro, however very few drank before games etc, their attitude and dedication and professionalism was greater than a lot of what is displayed today, they had fun yes but there was a time and a place for it.Many xmas days in our house was alchohol free due to the boxing day match.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Im not sure anymore, So in the room was Cordoba, his bird, her brother, Agar and the OP's mate !!
Is that right ??'"
and a goblin teasmade!
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Considering I was stood in the bar next to this incident I can say with good authority that all of the above is bullox. It was indeed a Rovers fan and his actions deserved a lot more than the few decent digs JR gave back in self defence !!!'"
So which part is bollox then? Apart from the bit about him being an FC fan which I have already accepted i was wrong about? The incident was clearly not Rule's fault but IMO as CEO of our club it's still pretty unprofessional of him to have retaliated. I'm not expecting him to be a saint but it looks very bad.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I disagree Kosh, some of the greatest players came from that era, the mentality of the players was possibly more professional, the players were generally semi-pro, however very few drank before games etc, their attitude and dedication and professionalism was greater than a lot of what is displayed today, they had fun yes but there was a time and a place for it.Many xmas days in our house was alchohol free due to the boxing day match.'"
I'm not challenging the qualities or the achievements of the players from that era, but I do doubt that they were more professional than [imost[/i modern SL players. The fact that they may have been more professional than our shower says more about our current crop of underachievers and the loser culture at our club than it does about previous stars TBH.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not challenging the qualities or the achievements of the players from that era, but I do doubt that they were more professional than [imost[/i modern SL players. The fact that they may have been more professional than our shower says more about our current crop of underachievers and the loser culture at our club than it does about previous stars TBH.'"
Fair point, I was indeed only measuring it against our lot
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"So which part is bollox then? Apart from the bit about him being an FC fan which I have already accepted i was wrong about?'"
Rovers fan went over to him and to cut a long story short, the conversation changed in seconds from the kid trying to be all matey, matey and dignified in defeat to him becoming abusive. JR offered no-one outside but when the kid lashed out and hit him in the face, JR gave him a few back. I dont think JR can be called unprofessional for acting in self defence, Can you ?
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Rovers fan went over to him and to cut a long story short, the conversation changed in seconds from the kid trying to be all matey, matey and dignified in defeat to him becoming abusive. JR offered no-one outside but when the kid lashed out and hit him in the face, JR gave him a few back. I dont think JR can be called unprofessional for acting in self defence, Can you ?'"
As CEO of the club being down Prinny Ave after a Derby game was unprofessional.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Rovers fan went over to him and to cut a long story short, the conversation changed in seconds from the kid trying to be all matey, matey and dignified in defeat to him becoming abusive. JR offered no-one outside but when the kid lashed out and hit him in the face, JR gave him a few back. I dont think JR can be called unprofessional for acting in self defence, Can you ?'"
Well it depends, self defence is one thing but 'giving a few back' gives the impression that it was more than self defence. I'm not saying the guy who started it didn't deserve it and I'm not condemning Rule for doing it, but yes I would say it could be seen as unprofessional.
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| Quote ="Standee"As CEO of the club being down Prinny Ave after a Derby game was unprofessional.'"
Disagree. Once his club duties are over then the evening is his own time.
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| Quote ="maximo"I have pretty much backed Agar throughout the season partly due to him having a go with his own squad next year and also due to the board only replacing him with a second rate coach anyway.
I got told some information last night which has changed my mind.
A friend of mine was in Bezier over the weekend as he rocked up to his hotel at 2am sunday morning a big aussie bloke was trying to get in aswell. They ended up chatting and it turned out to be Josh Cordoba's girlfriends brother. Cordoba's girlfriend was staying at the same hotel and he was going to sleep in her room on the floor. My mate asked him where else has he been staying and he replied "the night before i slept on Agar's bedroom floor".
Im only passing on what i was told but if this is thecase then Mr Agar has to go, it is completley unprofessional and sends out the complete wrong message for me. Can you imagine Alex Ferguson letting someone do that I cant. For me its time to get rid of the majority of the coaching staff bar Andy Last.'"
Thats It I have had enough I am not worried about game plans or discipline or even poor signings but thats it someone sleeping on his floor!!!!! Unbelievable!
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| Quote ="Standee"As CEO of the club being down Prinny Ave after a Derby game was unprofessional.'"
Why ?
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Why ?'"
Because if it was as easy to predict 6 numbers every Saturday and Wednesday night as it was to see how a trip down Princes Av, after a derby game for our CEO would end up, then we would all be loaded.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Why ?'"
Because it is, can you imagine the CEO of a Premier League side doing it?
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| Quote ="Standee"Because it is, can you imagine the CEO of a Premier League side doing it?'"
Yes
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