Agreed 100% that he has to burden some of the blame and to be fair I believe having watched his interviews his body language shows he is hurting too which is something we have not seen for a wee while from coaches, however when your playing rosta is so limited I believe he is somewhat hand tied at present...
But those players who are taking the rip out of him should i believe take note of an old saying
"when you dance with the devil at some point you have to pay the fiddler"

welcome to the forum of gloom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pay day was weeks ago though mate !!!!!

I attend few games because the club removed my option, as I have moved oaway from Hull and refuse to break my neck to get to the KC. I am not turning against anyone, but if you honestly think Agar is one of the up and coming coaches you are deluded, he can't even get his interchanges anywhere near right. I've never rung Radio Humberside and, in fact, have done a hell of a lot for FC over the years. Now, you can make digs at me all you like, I am thick skinned and have had worse from far more capable people than yourself.

You make comment that Knocker was poured into and out of Taxis, yes, he was, but I would imagine he never drove drunk to training, he also left his heart and soul on the field, most of our lot leave their lunches in the toilets at Pozition.

I am sure he does not was just unsurprised based upon his posting MO that he was the first to attack my comments.
hey forums are for all comments not just negative ones .

There are lots of positives to come out of this season.
we have had a decent uninjured run now from RW and we are starting to see what a great player this lad is!
It has proved once and for all that some of the golden balls of FC over tha last few years are past their best either through age or injuries recieved..
We have actually bought some great lads in MC and PC etc who will all help the greater picture.

not pretty at the moment but we have all seen worse

Isn't that a Harry Potter book?

Nah, think it's Indiana Jones.

Didnt knock you merely pointed out that all opinions are reletive not just your doom and gloom ones ,
what ever pubs they visit in their own time is down to them as that is their perogative , many current internationals like a drink or two so i cannot comment and as for the ones who let it cross into game time, their day will i am sure now come at the end of the season..
PS I live in Walsall now and have missed 5 games all season , demographics dont effect my travel to watch matches, hence I can make first hand comments .. unlike some

Ask around on here, there'll probably be a few volunteers to do it for you.

popular poster then

A successful one.


You honestly believe that there are top secret reasons behind some of the baffling team selections and incompetent bench rotations this season? Despite Agar himself admitting that he doesn't know how to operate the bench?

OK.


They weren't highly-paid professional RL players. Moreover, they were actually delivering on the pitch.

The game has moved on from those days. Sadly, some of our fans and players haven't.


You haven't 'placed' any facts, just more opinion. No harm in that, but don't confuse the two.


What's that supposed to mean?




Feel free. If you can find some positives in our performances at the moment I can only applaud your optimism.

You don't have to go to the games to be able to comment, so many seem to think you do, but you really don't. What time do you finish work on a Friday to get to Hull from Walsall every other week, no doubt you struggle some weeks, that is your perogative, I chose not to, and it seems I put as much effort into gettig to games as the player do during said games.


If you think it is the perogative of a professional sportsman to be tanked up 3 or 4 nights a week, smoke like a chimney and generally have a poor attitude then fine, but it kind of flies in the fae of your comments about Agar, as he has said it is a problem as well.

In case you missed it, we play rubbish Rugby, look a beaten side as soon as we concede points, have issues within the squad and a coach who tells us "it's going okay in training", if you can see brightness in that then can I please, please, have a copy of your prescription, either for your glasses or medication, I care not which.

However back to my point , the facts are that the team he is working with is littered with players maybe not of the quality we should be using or are accustomed to BUT those lads still go out and try I am sure and because it isnt working for them at present does not make those hits they take any less painful remember that.

I do expect to see a few faces missing from the team photo next year though and one or two that have been part of the furniture for sometime , and one or two i dare not even mention for fear of ridicule if the squad make up next year is based upon current playing form..

RLFans is about discussion, it isn't a popularity contest, sorry to burst that particular bubble.

TBH, often posts a hell of a lot of sense, just has a habit of saying things people don't want to hear/admit. Does go overboard a fair bit as well though, and seems to always pick out the negative side of things first, regardless of whether or not the positives outweigh them. Also one of the very few who will admit when he's wrong and apologise if necessary.

A little harsh. Successful coaches make less mistakes than he has, but still make some all the same. Nobody's perfect.

Standee wrote: We must NOT turn in against our fellow supporters, that is for certain.

Dear Standee I have I must admit been held up on many ocassions for matches both home and away due to my location , and got to the first match at Celtic at 2 mins to half time but I still payed my money and shouted for the lads as loud as I and my son could muster!!
However I have never used others information on forums or radio Humberside to manufacture my opinions as I like to see my team first hand warts and all, and through all the dark days also, and trust me , I have no knowledge of the ages in this forum but there have been much darker days than this in the past and we got through them and we will do the same again.
under the control of a Chairman who has done a lot for our club and a coach who WIL turn this around with his team I am sure of it..

I know, but my version was a better soundbite.

Summs me up quite accurately I'd say, it is difficult to be positive when your career has been built around going in and identifying where things are wrong, and how they could/should be corrected, so I fully accept the criticism. I have, and always will, apologise and admit I am wrong when necessary, even to Rovers fans!

Not entirely convinced of that, personally. Either way, the problem is at least asmuch how they focus the effort they put in (ie tactics), and that is where Agar comes in. We have not been trying the right things enough or changing what isn't working.

Thank you for that , I will bear that in mind , thanks, difficult to join a forum where so many people obviously know each
other so well and comment but i am sure those that are not red bull driven will see I am black and white to the core and want it all to be success after success as well as they do , just seems far too much negativity sometimes...
BUT it is painful to watch at times I agree

Who needs Humberside/KCFM/ or other posters opinions.

We have this thing called the "League Table" and it never, ever, lies.

Yeah, I'll give you that.

Lets face it and be honest
as I see it.
King, Thacks, Motu, Tickle, thorman, Radford, etc should all know in their hearts that the game is up for them... 1000s each week cannot be wrong huh?? and my point is that Agar sees this as well
Even Horne has become the most predictable player in SL this season all of which should be moved on if form at present is to be the deciding factor however , many of those above would I am sure be better players behind a more balanced team.
But find it hard to see where those forwards above will fit into the squad next year