All my opinion of course but i think Whiting is a squad player at best, people say his future is in the pack yet he ran full tilt at Mguire two weeks ago and made no impact at all.

I feel for Hall and the reason i would let him go is because our coaching staff dont have the ability to teach him anything. I think if Hall went to rovers Justeeen would take him under his wing and turn him into some sort of world beater

cant argue with these 6... i think motu will be replaced at full-back by tansey,thorman is a definate gonner due to his appaling form so far,radford offers us nothing that an average superleague player on low wages would do, we could save a small fortune if he went....cusack is a plodder, solid but nowt better than an average forward, g.horne has had too many chances and still has no set position, king..gives %100 but doesnt play enough games...

these sort of players would not get in any of the top 4 teams in my opinion..maybe tony when fit, but i cant see many more wanting our cast-offs....

King - not good enough, best days are well passed him

Radford - not good enough never has been and offers nothing

Cusack - average plodder waste of a quota spot

Thorman - nowhere near good enough

Tony - isn't a FB for me and also becoming injury prone

Lee - not good enough 3rd or 4th choice hooker don't need him

G Horne - not good enough and has no real position

Dowes - average plodder offers nothing in attack

That is quite a lot of salary cap space that could be spent a thousand times better

give your head a shake

I don't care what you say, you can't just have a whole pack of explosive players. You need work horses as well, granted we have too many. But Dowes maybe doesn't offer alot in attack but he's a damn hard worker and a very good defender, he should definately stay. Cusack also isn't a plodder, however I think he will probably leave anyway. Lee has earned at least another year imo and as much as I like Tony he isn't good enough to be first choice fullback and I don't really see where he will fit in elsewhere. Radford to go, again a work horse but I would rather have Dowes than Radders tbh, I don't think there is enough room for both. Thorman and Horne can go for me.

cusack isnt a plodder????!!! he's sean ryan in disguise....

Unless we were to start a new trend of playing with 3 hookers, maybe two for impact from the bench ??

Now there's an idea !!!!

Players i would consider releasing from there contracts or not renew deals.

Motu tony - maybe a bit harsh he's been out for a long time but he needs to improve, he lacks quality under the high ball but if he can get back to the form of 2006 he would be fantastic.

Chris Thorman - For me he as done enough damage, and needs a fantastic second half to the year, for me he came in for his kicking game and at times hes none existant.

Peter Cusack - Would consider giving him a new deal but he's to much like Dowes and a waste of a import position.

Lee Radford - Too many back row forwards and Lee offers the least options.

Greame Horne - Would also consider a new deal, as a utility player he has great effort and not bad player but depends on who we can get in to replace him.

I think we desperatly need a centre and a real go forward prop to replace carvell if not two.

Could also do with a full back and winger then i think we would be complete.

agree with this but wait on tony to see if he can get into form after what was a serious injury

fitz for radford (cant see agar doing this though)
tansey for horne
long for thorman
we need a centre and prop to complete the jigsaw but i hope we dont go like for like with the props. we have never really replaced carvell and need a go forward player

which would you replace because at the moment Yeamo is playing like an extra wide 2nd row

im hoping he gets a new lease of life with long providing him with some decent ball next year - problem with this year is he isnt getting any quality ball

By the time he gets it there is no space to operate ..

Really don't think we need another one. Calderwood, Raynor and Briscoe will be fine. If need be, Hall can play there, or we could just take a Leeds fringe player on loan again.

To be honest forgot about our massive signing of jordan tansey so forget the winger.

TL the only one i would offer a deal to, the rest your right about, all average at best!

thackray is a definite for next season.he's the only impact prop we have!!!!
i'd rather have him than dowes,moa or cusack

Thorman - not good enough

Cusack - plodding workhorse, never threatens the line, waste of a quota spot

Tony - thanks for everything but time to move on

Dowes - plodding workhorse, never threatens the line

King - great servant but all good things come to an end

Whiting - great player but sadly and crucially no speed


Radford for me has been playing like a plodding prop all season and given that role I think he would offer more than both Cusack and Dowes. At least he has a presence about him.

Tommy Lee has shown enough (just) to warrant another contract and should improve with the influence of Long.

G.Horne has done a solid job without ripping up any trees but he has more pace than Whiting.

Saying this though the biggest doubt for me is the coaching team!
With no apparent ideas regarding tactics, team selection or the interchanges, I think Mr Agar is out of his depth as a SL head coach. The most important role at the club is the head coach and no amount of money should be spared in securing the best that money can buy.

Workhorses are not meant to break the line every time they run with the ball, i cant agree on people saying get rid of Dowes, great defender and works hard all the time he is on the pitch, a must keep for me.

Agree.

Kite


Lauaki
Dowes
Thackray
Maloney

Radders as cover for both prop and 2nd row. Radders will be better if he's spelled more and has a point to prove, which will be the case if he's competing with Manu/Fitz/Burnett in the 2nd row and those mentioned above at prop.

Lee - no real progress
Thorman -


Moa - poor project
Cusack - age
King - best is behind him
Dowes - maybe


G. Horne - contract extension


Motu - maybe


Radders maybe


Agar

Get rid of:
Radders
Cusack
King
Thorman
Tickle
Yeaman

I was going to mention Yeaman but feared a backlash

I think these two need to be given more game time and used in a proper rotation before they can be classed as deadwood. IMO they should both be given another year.

How about moving Yeaman to 2nd row? Didn't he say, once, that he prefered playing there?

Only one I would disagree with is King, maybe Thacks should go instead but I am not sure.