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balsawood
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lee
dowes
berrigan
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manu
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Interchanges I would make, barring injuries:
cusack for thacks 20 minutes
king for dowes 30 minutes
manu for radford 30 minutes
houghton for berrigan 30 minutes
radford for manu 50 minutes
dowes for cusack 50 minutes
thacks for king 55 minutes
berrigan for houghton 60 minutes
manu for tickle 65 minutes
King for thacks 70 minutes
cusack for dowes 70 minutes
For me that would keep everyone relatively fresh and give us some impact in the 10-15 minutes leading up to half time and the same towards the end of the 2nd.
kear won the game on Friday with his interchanges. drew came on against a tiring side and tore us to shreds. Berrigan can do the same if used correctly and with fresher players around him. It's stupid playing forwards for 80 minutes a game and propos 60 minutes plus. There's no need and it reduces how effective teh players are.
I also like the idea of bringing 2 or 3 players on together rather than one at a time. It gives added impact IMO.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Am I right in thinking it is this Thursday ?'"
Yeah this thursday.
won't happen but i would go with
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4 Yeaman
5 Broughton
6 R.Horne
7 Berrigan
8 Dowes
9 Lee
10 Thackray
11 Burnett
12 Tickle
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Interchanges I would make, barring injuries:
cusack for thacks 20 minutes
king for dowes 30 minutes
manu for radford 30 minutes
houghton for berrigan 30 minutes
radford for manu 50 minutes
dowes for cusack 50 minutes
thacks for king 55 minutes
berrigan for houghton 60 minutes
manu for tickle 65 minutes
King for thacks 70 minutes
cusack for dowes 70 minutes
For me that would keep everyone relatively fresh and give us some impact in the 10-15 minutes leading up to half time and the same towards the end of the 2nd.
kear won the game on Friday with his interchanges. drew came on against a tiring side and tore us to shreds. Berrigan can do the same if used correctly and with fresher players around him. It's stupid playing forwards for 80 minutes a game and propos 60 minutes plus. There's no need and it reduces how effective teh players are.
I also like the idea of bringing 2 or 3 players on together rather than one at a time. It gives added impact IMO.'"
Not enough gametime for Manu imo. The game would end up passing him by. He should not be doing the 80 mins but he should be doing around 50-60 mins and he should be starting too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not enough gametime for Manu imo. The game would end up passing him by. He should not be doing the 80 mins but he should be doing around 50-60 mins and he should be starting too.'"
Disagree. He should be used for impact, not ploughing it up the middle. use him when defences are tiring and he's fresh. Mind, we need a decent playmaker for him to feed off. Similar player to puletua and lauatiti and I doubt either of them are doing 60 minutes a match
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Disagree. He should be used for impact, not ploughing it up the middle. use him when defences are tiring and he's fresh. Mind, we need a decent playmaker for him to feed off. Similar player to puletua and lauatiti and I doubt either of them are doing 60 minutes a match'"
The problem is we don't have a decent playmaker so he needs ot be out there more. Play him until the 30 min mark and then rest him for 10 mins plus halftime and bring him on 10-15 mins in the second half.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
Interchanges I would make, barring injuries:
cusack for thacks 20 minutes
king for dowes 30 minutes
manu for radford 30 minutes
houghton for berrigan 30 minutes
radford for manu 50 minutes
dowes for cusack 50 minutes
thacks for king 55 minutes
berrigan for houghton 60 minutes
manu for tickle 65 minutes
King for thacks 70 minutes
cusack for dowes 70 minutes
For me that would keep everyone relatively fresh and give us some impact in the 10-15 minutes leading up to half time and the same towards the end of the 2nd.'"
I don't see the point in having set times for when to bring a player on/off. It seems as though this is what Agar does. For instance, why would you bring a player off at a certain time if he is having such a big affect on the team and the opposition can't handle him? Fair enough some eventually need to come off for a breather eg Manu. But for gods sake don't have set times for them. Pointless.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The problem is we don't have a decent playmaker so he needs ot be out there more. Play him until the 30 min mark and then rest him for 10 mins plus halftime and bring him on 10-15 mins in the second half.'"
I Agree, it really is a joke that barring Berrigan we don't have any playmakers that are better than average at creating things.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I don't see the point in having set times for when to bring a player on/off. It seems as though this is what Agar does. For instance, why would you bring a player off at a certain time if he is having such a big affect on the team and the opposition can't handle him? Fair enough some eventually need to come off for a breather eg Manu. But for gods sake don't have set times for them. Pointless.'"
There obviously needs to be some flexibility. It would only be a rough guide to when I think we should be giving players a breather
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| Agar has tried changing things around but the problem is he just hasn't changed anything else such as the game plan etc. Anyway, if R.Horne is back and Reardon is available too then I would go for:
Reardon
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Hall (kicker for this game)
Yeaman
Broughton
Washbrook
R.Horne
Dowes
Lee
Thackray
Burnett
Radford
Whiting
Moa
Maloney
Manu
Berrigan
I feel that Tickle has been very average and feel that the 3 second rowers named are better at the moment (judging Burnett on form before his injury, but looked quite good on Friday too). I also don't see what G.Horne has been adding to the team either at the moment (although he did O.K on the wing at St's) added to the fact I want to see Hall back at centre. If Reardon is out then I would put Hall back to 1 and G.Horne at centre.Thorman has to be dropped. He is terrible and Washbrook showed more in the first half than Thorman has since Bradford away. Berrigan has looked better coming off the bench in the past two games and feel Lee looked very dtermined in the past 3 games and would prefare him to start at the moment
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I don't see the point in having set times for when to bring a player on/off. It seems as though this is what Agar does. For instance, why would you bring a player off at a certain time if he is having such a big affect on the team and the opposition can't handle him? Fair enough some eventually need to come off for a breather eg Manu. But for gods sake don't have set times for them. Pointless.'" i dont see the point of interchanging forwards at half time
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| Quote ="The Key"Agar has tried changing things around but the problem is he just hasn't changed anything else such as the game plan etc. Anyway, if R.Horne is back and Reardon is available too then I would go for:
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Calderwood
Hall (kicker for this game)
Yeaman
Broughton
Washbrook
R.Horne
Dowes
Lee
Thackray
Burnett
Radford
Whiting
Moa
Maloney
Manu
Berrigan
I feel that Tickle has been very average and feel that the 3 second rowers named are better at the moment (judging Burnett on form before his injury, but looked quite good on Friday too). I also don't see what G.Horne has been adding to the team either at the moment (although he did O.K on the wing at St's) added to the fact I want to see Hall back at centre. If Reardon is out then I would put Hall back to 1 and G.Horne at centre.Thorman has to be dropped. He is terrible and Washbrook showed more in the first half than Thorman has since Bradford away. Berrigan has looked better coming off the bench in the past two games and feel Lee looked very dtermined in the past 3 games and would prefare him to start at the moment'"
I don't understand why people keep picking Broughton for the wing
Horne and Hall are both better players and would do a better job on the wing than him but people seem to pick Broughton and I just don't know why?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't understand why people keep picking Broughton for the wing
Horne and Hall are both better players and would do a better job on the wing than him but people seem to pick Broughton and I just don't know why?'"
Agreed Paul, Broughton is so average it's not funny.
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| The main thing that has got to change is loose man. We are currently too easy to defend against and this is partly due to playing an extra prop at 13.
I think Washbrook did enough last Friday to warrant another starting spot and if Horne is fit again, this should be at 13. Our attacking play has got to have more options to keep the opposition defence working. Everyone should be involved in every set of six either with ball in hand or dummy runner. In recent matches too many players see us having possession as a chance to have a rest and wait for the next tackling stint.
I would personally start with Burnett and bring Manu off the bench for impact.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't understand why people keep picking Broughton for the wing
Horne and Hall are both better players and would do a better job on the wing than him but people seem to pick Broughton and I just don't know why?'"
I would prefare Hall in the centre for a start. But I felt that last week Broughton looked fairly O.K there and would give him another game or two there as I feel he could improve. Plus I didn't feel that G.Horne looked that confident on the wing against Saints
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Agreed Paul, Broughton is so average it's not funny.'"
Leeds have struggled for outside backs all season and he has not been in contention once, says it all tbh.
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| Quote ="The Key"I would prefare Hall in the centre for a start. But I felt that last week Broughton looked fairly O.K there and would give him another game or two there as I feel he could improve. Plus I didn't feel that G.Horne looked that confident on the wing against Saints'"
Broughton is as much as a winger as Hall is yet we bring him and play him there. Hall or Horne are way ahead of Broughton and the fact we are picking him is laughable.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Broughton is as much as a winger as Hall is yet we bring him and play him there. Hall or Horne are way ahead of Broughton and the fact we are picking him is laughable.'"
Agree about Hall, although Hall is actually pretty good on the wing imo its just not his bets position.
I don't agree about G.Horne been miles ahead of Broughton as a winger.
Watkins, Gibson and Hall are better than Broughton but the first two would get into a fully fit Hull side in the centre anyway, plus Hall is one of the top try scorers this season anyway. Plus Broughton wouldn't get near a full strength Hull side anyway so I don;t really see why you are using that as your argument
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| Quote ="The Key"Agree about Hall, although Hall is actually pretty good on the wing imo its just not his bets position.
I don't agree about G.Horne been miles ahead of Broughton as a winger.
Watkins, Gibson and Hall are better than Broughton but the first two would get into a fully fit Hull side in the centre anyway, plus Hall is one of the top try scorers this season anyway. Plus Broughton wouldn't get near a full strength Hull side anyway so I don;t really see why you are using that as your argument'"
My argument is despite injuries to Tony, Raynor and Briscoe we still have better options on the wing than Broughton in both Hall and Horne. For a start they both have more experience and have been playing and training with our squad all season not to mention they have been playing at SL level all season.
Broughton has been brought in to cover in case we get any more injuries, he should not be playing this week.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"My argument is despite injuries to Tony, Raynor and Briscoe we still have better options on the wing than Broughton in both Hall and Horne. For a start they both have more experience and have been playing and training with our squad all season not to mention they have been playing at SL level all season.
Broughton has been brought in to cover in case we get any more injuries, he should not be playing this week.'"
How have you come to the conclusion that G.Horne is a better winger than Borughton? G.Horne has barely played there himself. When he did againat Saints, he got two trys but he didn't exactly play amazingly. Hall should be at centre if Reardon is back, I feel at the moment we need to play to our strengths and Hall at centre is one of them.
While Broughton himself isn't an experienced winger, on Friday he seemed to have the qualities to do a job for us there for a month. The fact that Leeds have better players to cover injuries than him is irrelevant because Leeds have a better squad
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Readon (if cleared) Thorman
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| Quote ="The Key"How have you come to the conclusion that G.Horne is a better winger than Borughton? G.Horne has barely played there himself. When he did againat Saints, he got two trys but he didn't exactly play amazingly. Hall should be at centre if Reardon is back, I feel at the moment we need to play to our strengths and Hall at centre is one of them.
While Broughton himself isn't an experienced winger, on Friday he seemed to have the qualities to do a job for us there for a month. The fact that Leeds have better players to cover injuries than him is irrelevant because Leeds have a better squad'"
Well Horne scored two tries despite being out of position and he has already been playing well at centre so continuity is surely a good thing along with experience.
Tell me what Broughton has done to earn a spot in our fist team?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Well Horne scored two tries despite being out of position and he has already been playing well at centre so continuity is surely a good thing along with experience.
Tell me what Broughton has done to earn a spot in our fist team?'"
He has Kath's lipstick round the base of his leeds rhinos tattoed peni5
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| My Team would be,
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Thorman
Dowes
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Cusack
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Tickle
Lee
Manu
Thacks
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If Reardon isnt fit, play R Horne at FB, with Washbrook at Stand off andf G Horne onto the bench.
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