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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I think that particular accolade goes to Thorman, who was truly shocking.'"
No - I'll stick with it and say G Horne was marginally worse. |
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| Tbh I expect our board to re sign all the OOC players tbh, and sign another back rower! 
G. Horne, Byrne, Cusack (even though I rate him), Thorman and although he is my favourite player Tony should go too (too many injuries now).
Tommy Lee gets too much stick on here (I have gave him stick in the past too) but he is only one of a few of our players that players with passion and really does try every game.
Whiting would also keep for cover in just about every position from him.
So... Lee and Whiting back up.
Radders is a waste of time also in attack, offers nothing.
As for the props I think Dowes is enough for a work horse prop with maybe Maloney in the reserves. Don't see any point in having both Dowes and Cusack playing together.
Just look at Graham he puts in plenty of minutes, but will also break the line at will and offload.
Thackray I feel needs to put some more weight on, he may have bulked up in muscle. But can't help but think he is too light for prop now. |
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"[uAs It Stands:[/u
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Bit of recruitment work to do there, then
We've got 2 quota spots left (Assuming Byrne and Cusack leave and Crocker arrives) so I'd go for a quota full back and scrum half. If Crocker doesn't arrive, use that quota spot for a centre. Reckon Tony will go home as well - can't see us renewing his deal with his injury record the last 2 seasons. Question is who to retain (if any) of Thorman (as cover in the halves, or is Lee a more versatile option?), Whiting (probably retain but as LF) or Graeme Horne. We need some serious upgrading.'"
I'd keep G Horne and Whiting.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"
Thackray I feel needs to put some more weight on, he may have bulked up in muscle. But can't help but think he is too light for prop now.'"
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Move him to second row?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Tbh I expect our board to re sign all the OOC players tbh, and sign another back rower!
G. Horne, Byrne, Cusack (even though I rate him), Thorman and although he is my favourite player Tony should go too (too many injuries now).
Tommy Lee gets too much stick on here (I have gave him stick in the past too) but he is only one of a few of our players that players with passion and really does try every game.
Whiting would also keep for cover in just about every position from him.
So... Lee and Whiting back up.
Radders is a waste of time also in attack, offers nothing.
As for the props I think Dowes is enough for a work horse prop with maybe Maloney in the reserves. Don't see any point in having both Dowes and Cusack playing together.
Just look at Graham he puts in plenty of minutes, but will also break the line at will and offload.
Thackray I feel needs to put some more weight on, he may have bulked up in muscle. But can't help but think he is too light for prop now.'"
But he plays with quality all around him and he's allowed to express himself as a player. Would be wasted in a percentage team.
As for Thackaray i'm sick of hearing about how good he is. He is a nothing player that constantly plays for himself, has no team ethic and his best years are well and truly behind him.. Get Maloney in now and give him a shot. |
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Would retain Whiting. All others you mention should go.'"
100% AGREE !!! None of those mentioned should be even considered for extensions apart from Whiting (who I thought looked pretty good yesterday considering his layoff)
We also need to find a way of offloading some of the players to whom this idiot and the last one have given contract extensions.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"That team was made up of some very average players. Nolan brothers, Gay, Mackey, Marlow, Sharp even Eastwood & Harrison. Brian Smith came in though and turned them all into world beaters over night and installed a great amount of belief.
John Kear installed that belief into some average players for 5 games in 2005. Peter Sharp did the same for the end of 2006.
What we have now is avaerage coaches and average players. No sense of belief and little confidence.
Forget the first 5 games this season ( I can't be d to work this out) but what is Agars win %.?
Now the players.
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Motu ( I love the guy but he wants to play NRL and he is injury prone. Will he play again.? )
Yeaman. Way past his best and living on past glory for 24 months at least now.
G Horne ... average at best.
T Lee ... I just don't rate him, though I can't fault his effort this season.
Radders, Dowes, King, see Yeamo.
Thorman never rated him but was prepared to give him the benefit. 8 games in and he has done nothing to change my mind.
Byrne will be going home, possibly to retire, but not good enough for a quota spot, Cusack also not good enough for quota spot.
It time to tell these players the truth. They may well realise that as they are staring at the dole queue next season they have to perform to get a contract elsewhere. They may also say sod it I can't be d. Which given that there is no relegation and we have no chance of winning anything then there is no loss.'"
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON !!!!!! Couldn't have put it better myself !!!
It won't happen though, because there are way too many mindless idiots who will follow the black and whites in any kind of weather and sit there applauding mediocrity. Season passes being snapped up like hot cakes and shirts flying out of the shops are all that the club cares about.
We are a business and we are run as a very successful one. The fans, the quality of the squad and coach, the on-field success and ultimately the chance of actual success are all way down the list of priorities. |
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"We DESPERATELY need a new FB and SH. I've been saying this since the end of 2007 now.'" Would love for us 2 throw alot of money at Josh Dugan who is out of contract as is going to be a superstar. |
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Would love for us 2 throw alot of money at Josh Dugan who is out of contract as is going to be a superstar.'"
He the 1 at Celtic? |
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If im honest i would release all that are OOC, they havent impressed and / or are injured.
The only person that has done 'ok' this year is Greame Horne, but we need a very good centre a top full back and a top half back if we are to go anywhere.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"He the 1 at Celtic?'"
i'm sure thats Tony Duggan
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"No he's been adequate, there is a difference.'"
He's been terrible in the last few games, cost us a few tries imo, missing a lot of tackles. |
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| Quote ="fc baldy"He the 1 at Celtic?'" Nah thats Tony mate.
Josh Dugan has just burst onto the scene in the NRL with Canberra is only 19. |
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Nah thats Tony mate.
Josh Dugan has just burst onto the scene in the NRL with Canberra is only 19.'"
Cheers.....wouldnt mind him as well TBH. |
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Would retain Whiting. All others you mention should go.'"
Agree 100% |
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agree 100%'"
We looked better down that side with him in....ok he cocked up once when he over ran Tickle but thats just timing and will come. |
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We looked better down that side with him in....ok he cocked up once when he over ran Tickle but thats just timing and will come.'" We sure did.
Dont think it was over running him either Whiting was coming back inside hoping Tickle would drop him off but than can be attributed to rustyness. |
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We looked better down that side with him in....ok he cocked up once when he over ran Tickle but thats just timing and will come.'"
Thought Whiting went well for his first run out in ages TBH. Couple of mistakes/dropped ball but at least he can defend and support the ball carrier.
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do i take it ur not happy with mr Thorman lol now you know why we let him go! and to top it all off you take jon sharp on board!!
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| Quote ="hudders789"do i take it ur not happy with mr Thorman lol now you know why we let him go! and to top it all off you take jon sharp on board!!'" we only signed him on a 1 year contract so i presume we have someone lined up for next season. Altho i wont hold my breath |
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"we only signed him on a 1 year contract so i presume we have someone lined up for next season. Altho i wont hold my breath'"
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i for one cant see thorman turning out for us next year..along with tony,cusack,byrne and maybe horne and whiting......
isnt raynor OOC in 2010?? i also think moa is a gonna and malony aswell..
although he had a good game yesterday, paul king is a player that just doesnt do it enough for me, a overhall of the squad could see alot of players leaving the kc...my departures would be as follows..
tony
whiting
malony
moa
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"
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You basing that on his performances this year? Or when he was moved all over the field, and then stuck in the halves and made a couple of errors? Or are you just one of these fans that has a grudge against the lad?? Lee, in my opinion (and obviously Agar's) offers more at Hooker than Houghton, yet people arn't calling for him to leave.... |
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| Quote ="Faithful One"You basing that on his performances this year? Or when he was moved all over the field, and then stuck in the halves and made a couple of errors? Or are you just one of these fans that has a grudge against the lad?? Lee, in my opinion (and obviously Agar's) offers more at Hooker than Houghton, yet people arn't calling for him to leave....'"
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