get knocker, sterlo and barnett snr back

Radford..... running role.

Lee's decision making is nowhere near good enough for this role. He cannot control a game and invariably takes wrong options under pressure.

We do have to get the best out of what we've got, which means the forwards have to up their performance and lay a platform for the recognised halfbacks in the squad to be able to play.

Serious though, what can Agar do if the clubs got the problems your suggesting, ??

Radford should be nowhere near the 13 role in [iany[/i capacity. Choices like that really epitomise what is wrong with the side IMO.

And as for 'running role'... He was never quick. Now he barely gets above 'trundle'.

Berrigan would control the middle. Thorman and Horne would control out wide. What im suggesting isnt someone to control anything but to make sure that ball is shifted.

So you want a scrum half/first receiver who does nothing other than pass the ball to one of two players?

Sounds like a great plan to me.

I agree with you Kosh. I like the idea of creative Loose Forwards but as a personal choice of Radford as a running LF or Washy as a creative one then my choice would be Radford.

I think Whiting is a better choice but I feel a derby game might not be the one to throw him into. We missed that boat today.

Lee is no good at decision making, which is why he has not been too bad this season because he hasn't had to make them!

Thorman was VERY poor today, Horne i thought was OK.

King was poor too, and not good enough IMO. Dunno why Thacks was dropped, warming up for tomorrow on sing-star?!



I agree with the Moa comments, he has shown good play but his fitness seems to be lacking and so having a knock-on effect on the other props having to do more work

HE NEED TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS! This is the most important thing that we are lacking!

Me too

Then I'm eternally grateful that you'll never be coaching Hull FC.

Then I'm eternally grateful that you'll never be coaching Hull FC.

Whiting and Thacks to come back in.
Moa and Radford to drop out

Hall

Calderwood
Whiting
Yeaman
Briscoe

Horne
Thorman

Dowes
Berrigan
King
Manu
Tickle
Lee

Thackray
Cusack
G.Horne
Washbrook/Houghton

Washy is actually another running Loose Forward. He only appears creative compared to Radford, who is a prop. I'm not Washbrook's greatest fan, but he is a far better LF than Radford.

Whiting would make a good creative loose, but I agree that the Derby is probably too early to try that.

Start with King after today's display? doesn't deserve to be in the 17 IMO, start with Dowes and Cusack, Moa and Thacks on the bench with Washy and Whiting. No Lee, lets have Whiting back.

and lets be fair, Radders is never going to get dropped is he!? He's El Capitano!

whilst King did nothing to impress today, i'm not sure how Moa will cope in a derby, he wont have played in front of 23,000 before and it'd be a risk.

and your right, theres no way Radford will get dropped

Time Agar showed some b@lls then and dropped him.
How he got another year's contract is beyond me.

Maybe a risk, but i would have him instead of King anyday. i kept quiet about him gaining another contract, but he really isn't good enough and today he just looked down right lazy, as many did.

Let Moa have his 1st derby experience, im sure he will relish it. A thing that he does show, along with Manu, is some agression and Gung Ho forward.

I am at a loss at to why we must play Dowes, Radders and Cusack or majority of the game and only give King and Moa a cameo role. It aint ftness cos I am sure King could have played alot longer and probably Moa.

Our tactics are baffling! Even with minutes to go we do the old two props driving and a couple of scoots...I do not blame the players for the recent form I think our game plan is dire.

very much so

Steady on,we play at the K.C.,not Fantasy Island!

We should be doing that every game. The fact we are not is the main reason for our failings. Not enough effort and aggression. Teams playing us fancy it - Hull's team has a soft under belly and could well be the weakest team in the league in that respect.

Tuffour in for Calderwood and Whiting in for G.Horne.

Instil some passion in the players. This is, believe it or not, an important game.

Workhorse prop plus impact prop to start and some sensible interchanges of their replacements please.

Thackray in for Moa. Moa for 10 minutes or so is a waste - he's good but needs to be capable of more gametime. Even fat Feka can do a few spells.

Manu to the bench and Washy to start at loose man (Radders and Tickle second row). Manu is playing well but a fresh Manu in bursts against a tiring defence could be devastating.

Whiting in place of G Horne. (Not that the latter is the only one who deserves to be dropped).

Something other than 5 drives with no support and a kick to the full back/wingers. Is it a coincidence that the three times we passed along the line today we scored a try????

An attacking line that actually looks capable of running on to the ball. The white lines are not there to guide you where to stand you know.

Stop the stupid inside ball back into traffic. Everyone knows we do it. Everyone knows how to defend against it. Everyone watching knows it doesn't work.

Fook me Lee for 7 and Thorman for 1 and some people have a go at Agar