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| i think both yeamo and horne get alot of un-necessary criticism on here. i personally believe that both have been quite solid and started the season extremely well.
Centre is one of the most difficult positions to play in and master, and when comparing against other arguabley top centres such gidly, senior and matt king they are a good few years younger.yeamo is 25 and horne is still only 23.
also there are very few top quality centres in superleague, a big problem especially for the england team but thats another matter and getting away from hull fc. I think that the centre pairing we have currently although individually not the best but together when comparing against other teams centres is quite good.
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| Quote ="danodellhull"i think both yeamo and horne get alot of un-necessary criticism on here. i personally believe that both have been quite solid and started the season extremely well.
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Ive said they both played poor, as did the other 15. Whys that un-necessary?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"icon_lol.gif
I actually think that centre is one of our weakest positions so would agree in the main with what you say about our lads. Think you're overstating the influence their centres had a bit mind.
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Was just hugely impressed with the pace they were hitting the ball at. Guess Sherwin may have something to do with that too. We seem to always catch the ball stood still.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Was just hugely impressed with the pace they were hitting the ball at. Guess Sherwin may have something to do with that too. We seem to always catch the ball stood still.'"
After Friday's performance, catching it at all would be a start.
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| un necessary in the sense that he played well and people are picking little flaws which anyone can do to any player if they look hard enough. people only see what they want to see most of the time....
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| Quote ="Kosh"After Friday's performance, catching it at all would be a start.
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fair point
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| Quote ="danodellhull"un necessary in the sense that he played well and people are picking little flaws which anyone can do to any player if they look hard enough. people only see what they want to see most of the time....'"
Luckily these people don't write for the League Express, as he's their 'Player of the week'!
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| To be fair I do think Horne and Calderwood need to work on more attacking plays together even if its just flat passing. But again Horne has started the season well. Just compare his stats to the other Hull born right centre across the river who is being tipped by the reds as future GB class
[url:2rwjur1bhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=1037&hs2=2009&hp2=4873&stat=tackle_busts&season=2009[/url:2rwjur1b [/url'"
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif'"
I just compared Graham to Kirk Yeaman
I like Graham..based on stats international here he comes
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I just compared Graham to Kirk Yeaman
I like Graham..based on stats international here he comes
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Statistically he is playing well.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Statistically he is playing well.
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Out of the two Yeaman or Horne I would go for Horne at present as he is consistent BUT should honestly only be a utility squad palyer so that shows the real issue in the FC squad doesnt it
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| Quote ="wall-y"Out of the two Yeaman or Horne I would go for Horne at present as he is consistent BUT should honestly only be a utility squad palyer so that shows the real issue in the FC squad doesnt it'"
that we're joint top??
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| Quote ="wall-y"Out of the two Yeaman or Horne I would go for Horne at present as he is consistent BUT should honestly only be a utility squad palyer so that shows the real issue in the FC squad doesnt it'"
What's he gotta do? Score a double hat trick? If the lad scores three tries in a tightly contested game and still gets labeled a squad player, I don't think there's anything he can do!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"What's he gotta do? Score a double hat trick? If the lad scores three tries in a tightly contested game and still gets labeled a squad player, I don't think there's anything he can do!'"
he is a squad player, but he is playing well enough currently to be our right centre
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| He's worth the right centre place for me. defence is solid, making breaks with ball, scoring.......if he can add passing to his winger will be icing on cake.
As someone else said...what DOES he have to do? hes fought for a place, won it ans keeping it on merit by earning it
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| Quote ="davey37"Wouldn't be in my team if everyone was fit.'"
Thats just it though, the team is never always fit. Graeme Horne is invaluable in terms of his flexibility. I bet Agar has him in the first 18 every week.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"What's he gotta do? Score a double hat trick? If the lad scores three tries in a tightly contested game and still gets labeled a squad player, I don't think there's anything he can do!'"
Thankyou. If Yeaman had scored a Hat-trick he would be GB material.....Again.
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| just reading through posts on here
craig hall not good enough
calderwood terrible
grahame horne cant pass
briscoe still learning
thorman gone off the boil
yeoman wont pass
dowes looking tired
cusak wanted rid last year
radford never breaks tackles
manu fades out the game
tickle should not miss kicks
berro should have set up a drop
tommy lee just gets blamed anyway
richard horne must be good to keep us joint top on his own
please give them a chance they might just come good
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| Quote ="BIG H"just reading through posts on here
craig hall not good enough
calderwood terrible
grahame horne cant pass
briscoe still learning
thorman gone off the boil
yeoman wont pass
dowes looking tired
cusak wanted rid last year
radford never breaks tackles
manu fades out the game
tickle should not miss kicks
berro should have set up a drop
tommy lee just gets blamed anyway
richard horne must be good to keep us joint top on his own
please give them a chance they might just come good'"
There are a fair number of correct statements there!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"There are a fair number of correct statements there!'"
One or two, and that doesnt always make them a bad player. Radford not breaking tackles for example isnt an issue, Manu fading out of games is etc etc.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"One or two, and that doesnt always make them a bad player. Radford not breaking tackles for example isnt an issue, Manu fading out of games is etc etc.'"
But that depends on the reason for him fading IMO. Often (but not always) it is because he is being asked to get through too much work and/or play for too long. The issue then is as much, if not more, about coaching tactics for him rather than him being a bad player.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But that depends on the reason for him fading IMO. Often (but not always) it is because he is being asked to get through too much work and/or play for too long. The issue then is as much, if not more, about coaching tactics for him rather than him being a bad player.'"
Agreed. I didnt say it was always Manu's fault!
ive been an advocate on here for a long time of him being limited to 2x20 min spells off the bench.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Agreed. I didnt say it was always Manu's fault!
ive been an advocate on here for a long time of him being limited to 2x20 min spells off the bench.'"
Fair enough, I just wasn't sure with your comment about being bad players or not.
I agree Manu should be our bench 2nd row. When he plays 80 minutes I think he tends to receive the ball flat too often and miss a few tackles.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Agreed. I didnt say it was always Manu's fault!
ive been an advocate on here for a long time of him being limited to 2x20 min spells off the bench.'"
I wonder how he would fair at centre??? got the step the strength and the speed and a cracking pass ability?? maybe a shout when we have a glut of forwards all champing to play??
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