You still banging on about Sherwin. I'm not convinced by him.

What must the players that read these boards be thinking about the Hull fans right now!

7 matches in and its who can we get rid of!

Last week the players were heroes this week villains. The defeat to Wigan wasnt just down to the half backs and our slump in form will not be solved by signing a half back.

Sherwins a good player, but I tend to agree. When it comes to the crunch, im not convinced either.

Ive always been a fan of Brett Firman. Good player. more of a standoff/5/8 but can play halfback. Hes sort of been pushed around different clubs over the past few years but he is still young and has experience and quality of playing at the highest level.

Don't start blaming the forwards, they played well.

Exactly. And people complained when Stevo said Hull ans were very fickle!

Doesnt come much bigger than the NRL grand final.

Yup, 2004 Premiership win. One thing that does impress me with sherwin is his Kicking game, and especially his kicking near the line. Up there with the best

Sure, 2nd best in the world imo.

Who would be your first?

Johns?

He would be mine!

James Webster

Cooper Cronk.

His kicking is on a different level to anyone else imo.

The Props played well, the Second Rows and Centres offered no options at all and the service from the Hookers was pretty poor and kacked up several set plays.

They say that your forwards lay the platform for the half backs but unless you have your players in motion your half backs have little options and your play becomes one out rugby and predictable.

Great player. Sure has filled Matty Orfords boots!

Sure has especially when you think he was playing bits of 9 the year before.

Yea too right. He's versatile enough to play both IMO. Halfback is his position though. He's some find considering he only started playing league 3 or 4 seasons ago.

Yes but we would have to let one of our top earners go to bring in the type of HB we want. This is why i think we should see who is off contract this year
and use Swains money next year for there wages.

Manu and Tickle played well, Radford was steady and Godwin was good. Swain shouldn't have played IMO and Washy needs a spell in the 21's. Yes the centres didn't do much BUT the half backs were plain awful, why are people so obsessed with defending Lee and Horne when they have been nothing better than average for 5 out of 7 games this season?

Totally agree. We have no movement whatsoever off the ball, and whilst im not defending the half backs the team at the moment give them no options. We need to move up in numbers and we haven't done that this year. Just look at how many options Barrett has when he put O'Loughlin through.

Watch the game again and tell me how often the half backs ran at the line only to find our Second Rows and Centres stood still or running directly at defenders. Also watch how often we were turned on our backs and failed to turn the Wigan players on their backs and also watch to see how many times we even attempted to offload the ball and compare to the St Helens game.

The half backs are recieving lots of criticism at the minute but its a little harsh to try to blame the current situation totally on them. We have a stand off who is an exceptional broken play player but not so much a creator yet were expecting him to make the gaps and the rest to support, when to get the best out of him the players should be running at the gaps and he should be getting the ball to them. We have an already established exeptional Hooker who apparently needs to understudy to another expectional Hooker yet we're expecting a 19 year old kid to be rushed into the side because of injury and make things happen without this luxury.

One. Man. Team.
One. Man. One. Sided. Team.

[size=59Though admittedly better than we are at the moment.[/size

I wouldnt say we are a one man team, just inconsistan without him. We have shown we can play well without him its just we have proved we can do it consistantly. A one man team to me is a team who cant play as well at all without one player, and we can

Radford does nothing special IMO. Steady doesn't hack it. He wouldn't be in my 17 - I'd much rather play Macca.

Neither centre offered anything at all in attack, and they DID have opportunities to do so. Yeaman in particular looked like he just wasn't interested - even his defence was ropey.

In the second half, when we were pressing on their line, we didn't have one single player in motion as the halfbacks had the ball.

No-one is saying the halfbacks played well, but they were hardly alone. We have had a collective failure to perform this season and I'm struggling to understand why some folk want to pretend that the [ionly[/i problem is at halfback.