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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Great Sunday afternoon day out. Savelio the pick of the bunch for me, really impressive, Ratu is quality. Don’t get the need to put Griffin in the 2nd row, he’s a class really dangerous centre with awesome stats, unless his form dips, he’s first choice at centre for me'"
Griff will never make a decent SL centre.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Griff will never make a decent SL centre.
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You missed the part when i added that he will make a good running second row.
I think Radford agrees with that because once Fonua is fit Griffin will go onto the bench as a second row replacement and also cover any injury in the backs.
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| Quote ="bonaire"You missed the part when i added that he will make a good running second row.
I think Radford agrees with that because once Fonua is fit Griffin will go onto the bench as a second row replacement and also cover any injury in the backs.'"
I'm all for a bit of love and peace this season although you aren't denying what I said.
Nobody is a shoo-in for set positions including Mahe.
Radders knows a lot better than me and you so I'll leave the gig to him
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| Thought Griffin was very good against Leeds to be fair, don't get the negativity with him as he showed on Sunday he's a good player.
No one should be an automatic shoe in for the 17 this season no matter who they are even Fonua.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Thought Griffin was very good against Leeds to be fair, don't get the negativity with him as he showed on Sunday he's a good player.
No one should be an automatic shoe in for the 17 this season no matter who they are even Fonua.'"
I agree Chris, Griff is a real menace in the centre, and there’s a bit more fuel left in him, Radders has said he’d move into the pack, but boy we have some great options now, and with Albert Danny and Mahe to come in, Radders problem is keeping them all happy.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Great Sunday afternoon day out. Savelio the pick of the bunch for me, really impressive, Ratu is quality. Don’t get the need to put Griffin in the 2nd row, he’s a class really dangerous centre with awesome stats, unless his form dips, he’s first choice at centre for me'"
With Griffin though its about what's best for the team, not necessarily what is his best position. Had we not signed Fonua then it's a no brainer to keep picking Griffin at centre. But we have 3 quality players in Fonua, Griffin and Carlos and the team is better if we can find a way to accommodate all of them imo.
All of the stuff that's good about Griffin would still be applicable if he was at second row. He pretty much plays like a second row already. Making space for his winger isn't a strong suit. He runs good lines, is hard to tackle and has a good engine. That sounds a lot like a second row to me.
It's a tough call, so however Radford decides to play it I won't complain. But if it was down to me Griffin would be the bench second rower who is also there to cover the backs.
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| Quote ="bonaire"You missed the part when i added that he will make a good running second row.
I think Radford agrees with that because once Fonua is fit Griffin will go onto the bench as a second row replacement and also cover any injury in the backs.'" On recent form, Griffin doesn't deserve to be sat on the bench as cover. We need him on the field.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"On recent form, Griffin doesn't deserve to be sat on the bench as cover. We need him on the field.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"On recent form, Griffin doesn't deserve to be sat on the bench as cover. We need him on the field.'"
And last seasons form, and from a personal point of view for griffin, some very available centre spots up for grabs in the England team.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"On recent form, Griffin doesn't deserve to be sat on the bench as cover. We need him on the field.'"
Its a 17 man game and its whats best for the team.Griffin knows he will be moved around between centre and second row and probably start some games on the bench and acknowledges this in a recent HDM interview.
It also means because of this versatility he will be in the starting squad most games if fit.
Savellio started on the bench at Leeds and he was MOM
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| Quote ="bonaire"Its a 17 man game and its whats best for the team.Griffin knows he will be moved around between centre and second row and probably start some games on the bench and acknowledges this in a recent HDM interview.
It also means because of this versatility he will be in the starting squad most games if fit.
Savellio started on the bench at Leeds and he was MOM'"
You might not know, but how many games as griffin played 2nd row in super league, just don’t see the point of trying to turn him into a second rower in the prime of his life, fair enough could do a job and can be useful during interchanges, but for me he’s our best centre, why move him
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"You might not know, but how many games as griffin played 2nd row in super league, just don’t see the point of trying to turn him into a second rower in the prime of his life, fair enough could do a job and can be useful during interchanges, but for me he’s our best centre, why move him'"
I would suggest you ask our coach and here is what Josh said in the HDM Today
The high-profile return of Mahe Fonua had increased the competition for places at centre and with more options at his disposal in the outside backs, head coach Lee Radford looked to strengthen his hand even further in the back-row too.
Griffin was the obvious choice. A physical runner of the ball with a good step, a strong fend and an explosive nature over a short distance, Griffin’s skill set has long convinced Radford the ex-Salford man’s utility value can be a big asset to Hull.
“I’ve got that utility tag now. It means I’ll probably be in the team every week, but also means I could be in a different position each week, so that’s tough,” explained Griffin.
“Last year I played centre most of the time and stepped into the back row a little, but if it gives Radders another option then that’s fine.
"If the squad benefits, we’re winning games and getting to finals, I’ll play wherever I’m asked. It’s not a bad thing unless you let it be, I’m trying to use it to my advantage.”
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| Quote ="bonaire"I would suggest you ask our coach and here is what Josh said in the HDM Today
The high-profile return of Mahe Fonua had increased the competition for places at centre and with more options at his disposal in the outside backs, head coach Lee Radford looked to strengthen his hand even further in the back-row too.
Griffin was the obvious choice. A physical runner of the ball with a good step, a strong fend and an explosive nature over a short distance, Griffin’s skill set has long convinced Radford the ex-Salford man’s utility value can be a big asset to Hull.
“I’ve got that utility tag now. It means I’ll probably be in the team every week, but also means I could be in a different position each week, so that’s tough,” explained Griffin.
“Last year I played centre most of the time and stepped into the back row a little, but if it gives Radders another option then that’s fine.
"If the squad benefits, we’re winning games and getting to finals, I’ll play wherever I’m asked. It’s not a bad thing unless you let it be, I’m trying to use it to my advantage.”'"
So, fact, he played the majority at centre last season.
Fact, you said he wouldn't ever make a Super League centre.
Fact, he swept our awards board last season, although in your opinion, there were more worthy candidates.
And yes, we mostly all agree that's it possible he may have more of a utility role this season due to the depth of our squad.
Got it.
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It also means because of this versatility he will be in the starting squad most games if fit.
Savellio started on the bench at Leeds and he was MOM'"
I’ve not watched the game back yet, but I thought Shaul was mom, I know he and Manu were getting interviewed by Sky after the game.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I’ve not watched the game back yet, but I thought Shaul was mom, I know he and Manu were getting interviewed by Sky after the game.'"
I would have given it to Savelio but Shaul was a good choice too. Very solid team performance in this opening match. Leeds were just not up to the same level.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Liligiifo Sao for me Fred, he seemed to be everywhere, but as you say a very solid performance, Sav was outstanding as well.'"
Watched the game back again last night and Sao was very good. Hungry for involvement and the pre-season buzz about him looking justified.
Andre excellent and thought Griffin was another standout.
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| It was a good day out Wiz, once you found a pub to sit in, but it’s a shame the away end in a such a nice ground has no cover, everyone got a right soaking.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"It was a good day out Wiz, once you found a pub to sit in, but it’s a shame the away end in a such a nice ground has no cover, everyone got a right soaking.'"
Took advantage of the newish bar area behind the North Stand in second half and kept dry.
Watched it on tv.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Took advantage of the newish bar area behind the North Stand in second half and kept dry.
Watched it on tv.
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A couple of mates told me they can’t put a stand/cover on the away supporters end, because of the houses at the back, not sure if this is true. Nevertheless apart from pneumonia, a great day out
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"A couple of mates told me they can’t put a stand/cover on the away supporters end, because of the houses at the back, not sure if this is true. Nevertheless apart from pneumonia, a great day out
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Yes I think this is true, I've heard it's a planning thing
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"It was the only part of the day i enjoyed watching you lot get soaked
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You must have enjoyed Cas winning as well
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| Quote ="the artist"Yes I think this is true, I've heard it's a planning thing'"
I'm sure that Leeds would love a covered stand at that end - more away support = ££, plus it would make it a complete four stand stadium. However there is just that narrow footpath between the back of the terracing and some residential gardens so no chance of a stand I'm afraid.
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