At least the cup won't distract us from our assault on the Superleague!

Blame the coach yes. Penny always stops with him. But the players again downing tools to get rid of the coach. How many times we seen this ?.

Good chance to concentrate on the league now. Need to put all our efforts in to picking up 5 wins for the year.

Or just not good enough?

They're not downing tools, they're simply sub standard. Do you honestly think there's decent team hiding in there?

Both if you ask me….Smith past it…Genes a puppet…Grix was brought in for fresh ideas and not seen any at all.Worst recruitment I have seen.

Smith & Stanley OUT and Tarquin and his Barometer IN.

so why put all the blame on the coach

Maybe yes but with the way Smiths going we will never know

I just don't know why we go. Disillusioned to say the least. Yes the coach doesn't look to be doing any good whatsoever but also players just don't look bothered

I would blame the coach for most of the current problems.
Can you tell me since he has been here one thing he has put into place that has enhanced us on the field.
You start with the defence and then develop the attack but he has done nothing.
What do they do on the training pitch? Today we had a flat line no depth and just bunched in the middle of the field.
Last tackle option is pathetic.
The players have to take some of the blame but i think they would perform much better under a coaching staff that had discipline,fitness and hard work as the first priority.
Smith and his team have to go

But they havent performed under different coaches have they ?

Carlos, Sao, Lane, Houghton, Brown, Cator and Fash are all into there third head coach here.

Im not saying Smith shouldnt go but to think a different head coach would change this squad is a pipe dream. Our recruitment tells you enough, nobody wants to play here. Its a very toxic place at the moment.

Bonaire I agree to a certain point. But I'm fed up of seeing players who for whatever reason not putting the effort in. Yes the buck stops with the coach so he will Properly go. But the players have no excuse for not putting the basic effort of running hard tackling hard and not giving up whoever is coaching.

What an amazing job agent smith and gene are doing.

Don't look bothered. Don't look fit. Don't look like they know what they're meant to be doing out there. Ultimately, they just don't look coached. It's as if we've just picked 17 random guys off the street and thrown them onto a pitch together. There's no Cohesion, no trust in the man next to them, no discipline, no accountability, no desire, no professionalism, no leader, no anything.

Never a Super League squad this.

I'm not even sure it's a Championship level squad to be honest. Some serious problems at the club across the board.

Rugby not rocket science. It's a simple game. Who ever coached this rabble would expect better. These are professional sportsman who IMO should be expected to do the basics whoever is in charge. I played rugby yes at a low level but it wasn't an option to play as lacklustre as these lot. Me and Bonaire could coach and we would expect the players to be able to tackle . Catch the ball . Run hard. It's a given playing the game.

A very accurate post mrs b.

Martin, Staveley and Charles apart, there isn't one player I'd be bothered about if they announced they were leaving from that side today.

Even Brown or Ese'ese, if it allowed us to bring in a decent 7 or centre I'd be up for it.

Another day, another dollar, another fifty point defeat for Hull Fc.

Disappointed (to put it mildly!!!) I was hoping to see at least SOME reaction to last Saturday, a little bit of fight, a smidgeon of pride maybe, but no, just a rerun of seven days ago.

Virtually everyone currently employed by the club (from Pearson downwards) has played their part in the demise of a once great and proud club. We are now nothing more than an empty shell of what we once stood for.

We might as well sack the entire coaching staff and simply let the players take it in turns to pick a 17 each week. It wouldn't be any worse than this ongoing shambles that we are enduring and least we, the fans, would know exactly who to direct our ire and fury towards.

I said earlier this week that we are at our lowest ebb for 50 years, but at least the team of the early-mid seventies had some fight and local pride in themselves, the club was just skint at that time unfortunately.
Given where we were just seven years ago, this is now arguably the lowest point we have ever been at. Truly depressing times for all of us, with no answers to the malaise and not even a chink of light in what has become a very dark and long tunnel.

Where's that hemlock and cyanide again!!!!!

Thank God I cannot go to watch that shower and when I can it’ll be another season consigned to the bin. Smith has got to be on thin ice , the players he signed just aren’t cutting it, every casual observer questioned the Okunbor signing, as a back rower he is the epitome of half d and just isn’t good enough. We badly needed a scrum half and had plenty of time to get one , but instead we signed an international hooker , to play in a position he can’t , continue to flog the clubs oldest player and have no clue in attack. We have conceded over 100 points in two games and replied with just two scores . I’d get it if Pearson admitted we are below cap and because there is no relegation aren’t bothered by that worry, so have decided to sign targets that nobody else wanted until we are again solvent , then we could accept defeats, but not in the manner of the Leigh & Huddersfield games . We will be very lucky to sell 6000 passes next year ; I have never sensed a more disenfranchised group of diehard fellow supporters than I do now. I got a pass for this season as you do, don’t you , knowing that I’d miss upto 16 weeks, but in a time where the cost of living is a major concern for all of us, won’t be doing that next year , I just can’t take the club’s contempt for the fans any longer . I’ve seen some very low ebbs in supporting this club, since my first game in 1975 or 1976 but , even with no money and patched up teams , the pride of the players became the same pride of supporters- now the history of our club is being blackened by a team with no idea or discipline and a coach who cannot admit he is wrong. Something has to give - even when we got shellacked during Radders’ tenure , there was usually a response but under Hodgson and latterly Smith we have a team that wouldn’t worry the elite of The Championship. Sacking coaches isn’t the best formula for success but I don’t see what else Pearson can do. This club needs to engage with supporters or it’ll be doomed , and their current stance is the opposite of that, almost feeling like contempt for the people who keep them viable . Who could we get though as replacement? No real candidates scream out and who’d take the job anyway? Worrying times as the club is in free fall and may even be finished due to the parlours financial state it is in. Despair for the loyal thousands , utter despair.

As the saying goes "the fish rots from the head"

Really don’t think dropping Lane and putting Balmforth in the 17 will make any difference.
However much posters criticise smith.
The players have consistently let themselves and the club down.
There’s enough local hull boys in the team so I would expect them to show some guts and not lay down again next week.

It won'y be just him who doesn't see the end of the season. The rumblings on here suggest support for the whole rotten setup is dwindling and unless there's a mega change in the situation they'll be playing in front of vastly reduced crowds come Septembert