Hardly, Mrs B points out we have done well with injuries and Rovers have had two key players missing. Horne and Long are key players for us and we've hardly had Long this season and Horne has missed games and had to play injured. Not to mention Fitz playing with a dodgy shoulder all season so yes we have done well with injuries but we have had our issues like Rovers.

Then we go on to pressure on Morgan, okay they had the Mason thing but we had to contend with losing Tansey and drafting in Phelps late on. Morgan has not had any pressure from fans other than a few weeks back whereas our fans have been chanting for Agar's head and have been bombarding JR with emails and taking banners to games. O'Meley even got involved with fans at one stage and the club issued a statement backing the coach. So plenty of turmoil and Agar even admitted he was under huge pressure.

The actual discussion was about would Green and Dobson have won us the game and we both agreed probably not although they are a better combination than Horne and Obst.

Anyway carry on with your sock.

He would have taken control of our forwards and kicking game. Obst controlled nothing and might aswell have not played. He and Horne were constantly in the wrong position to kick the ball which also cost us field position. Long would have made a difference but we don't know how much.

Imo they ran stronger than us, played the ball quicker and defended more agressively and in numbers. They looked like a team that were not going to lose whereas we just looked like a team who were content to hang on.

Its all academic anyway Paul,Longy didn`t play unfortunatly,the plain fact is we looked clueless going forward,and I said to my mrs after 10 mins,I can`t see Hull scoring.

I was 20 mins behind you tbh.

Post what you want, she owned you

Figured as much you don't read the posts, oh and you're about 12.

Just to close this one off, and in the interests of board harmony. I said that Rovers have had a lot more distractions than us this year and ultimately IMO will finish above us which is very poor. Again. Paul is entitled to disagree on the extent of our distractions relative to Rovers. Shall we move on?

On topic, best we can hope for is 9th. Lordy.

I was actually not even debating that stuff about Rovers just picking up on Phelb's comment about their halfbacks. I've no interest in them tbh. I was just commenting on their poor result at headingley with these super halves of theirs.

They have had slightly more distractions, I wasn't arguing otherwise, I just pointed out we have had them too. That said with the team we have been able to put out for most of the season we should be doing better. I feel our squad is behind Saints, Wire and Wigan but on a par with Hudds and Leeds. The fortunes of us and Leeds are down to the quality of coaching.

Paul made statements aimed at defending agar that were clearly borlox and blasted out of the water by a fairly obvious response from you

Defending Agar??? You clearly were not reading properly. Why am I not surprised

Said the same after about half an hour. You know that feeling you get (quite often as a Hull fan) the "it's just not going to happen" feeling?

Apologies but your posts are dull so I generally skip most of them

Ouch, so cutting....

I thought as much, especially following us being beaten by your beloved rhinos

This site could maybe do with a handbags smiley.

Cas win in the end, another blow to our top 8 hopes.

not that I care if we make the 8 or not anymore, could do without our embarrassing playoff defeat being shown to the nation.

Been saying this for months mate, to have any chance of making the grand final youve gotta finish atleast 4th IMO, if we finish 8th all that will happen is we might win a play off game but then get knocked out but the board will see it as a "success" and will offer Agar a new deal

Crikey, Agar's right, this [uis[/u exciting.



7 Cas 24 points, -114 points difference
8 FC 21 points, +99 points difference
9 Rovers 20 points +15 points difference


Cas:
Wakefield A
FC H
Rovers A

FC:
Crusaders A
Cas A
Warrington H

Rovers:
Saints H
Catalans A
Cas H

As is now IMO. Cas should beat Wakey to all but seal 7th, we should beat Crusaders, and I can't see 2 wins for Rovers.

no, cas have 24 we have 23 - so assuming cas beat wakey and we beat crusaders we could effectively be playing cas for 7th spot. that would put us a point in front
fc 27
cas 26

in the meantime if rovers win either the saints or cats game they would have 24 so would be playing cas on the last day for 8th (rovers have a superior points diff). however if cas beat rovers and we lose to wire then cas finish 7th us 8th and rovers 9th. so would you settle for 8th knowing rovers would be out of the playoffs, or 7th with rovers making the 8?

of course rovers could win all 3 games and pip both us and cas to 7th

exciting stuff possibly

I think rovers will win their 2 remaining home games. Although bradford were complete gash, rovers defence looked much better after the first 10-15 minutes tonight

Do you honestly believe Sts attack will be anywhere near as bad as Bradfords tonight



Rovers had nothing to defend against.

Bradfords attack made us look like Melbourne Storm, even our 'Horne drops off to inside player' is executed to put a (very) slight doubt in the defensive line.
Bradfords drop off was about 10 mts away from it!

My god Bulls are appauling, rather have Agar than Potter.

Rovers could have fielded a team of Grandma's and they would have kept out Bradford tonight. I wouldn't read too much into it TBH.