Game was already moving away from us to be honest.

All of Ogre and Mrs Ogre's predictions would appear to be coming true.

It had to be a major factor nonetheless.

The thing that annoys me is even after the last four games we are still only two points off the top four. We could have been right up there with Warrington if we could just play the full 80 minutes.

Could be worse. At least we can afford new wheels and to put them back on, rather than having to sell the ones we have on eBay.

I dont see why people are surprised that were not good enough , Peter Gentle knows why and thats why players are getting shown the door I think deep down he knows we will not do anything more than just make the play offs and thats what I think tbh .the players (not all but most) are nowere near good enough to be challenging for trophys and it looks like the club are trying to rectify this for next year and onwards .

I don't think people are surprised we're not good enough to beat Wire away.

You talk a load of sh*t mate.

Down to 7th now, Leeds have gone above us today

Peter Gentle stated in the HDM only weeks ago that we are targeting a top 4 finish.....

Sounded like a good effort from your boys today, before any of our fans come on here gloating try to remember what our score was when we went to Wire. With their liberal use of the salary cap and poaching every other teams players then its no wonder these scores happen.

Probably affected the margin more than the result. Was already 24-18 and were up against it.

Ref's fault, defo.

How does Gentle's win ratio compare with Agar's?

Technically you wouldn't be putting them back on if you had gone to the expense of purchasing new wheels. Just saying.

Over what period of time?

No disgrace getting thumped away to Wire. Even a Wire side lacking Hodgson, Morley, Westwood, Grix, Blythe, Myler and Solomona.

Thought it was 18-all ? Fair play if not.

Of course he's going to say that



& tbf even though we are in a bit of a rutt we're only 2 points off 4th.

My view was that the effort was there but class told in the second half with the gap exacerbated by the penalty count and sin-binning. Warrington are the second best team in the comp, we're scrapping for 7th. Missing McKinnon, Sharp, Martin, O'Meley, O'Carroll and Houghton was always going to be a tough game, and so it proved.

Very good first 40, Poor 2nd. Not much else to say - do we drop to 8th next week if we don't win and Rovers do? All very familiar...

You know what they say "Money talks"!!!

Fixtures left, if we can get our mojo back top four isn't out of the question, other than Wire and Wigan everyone keeps dropping points.

1st 15:00 Huddersfield Giants KC Stadium, Hull SL
6th 20:00 Leeds Rhinos Headingley Carnegie, Leeds SL
14th 18:00 Catalan Dragons Stade Gilbert Brutus, Perpignan SL
23rd 20:00 Hull Kingston Rovers MS3 Craven Park, Hull SL
29th 15:00 Salford City Reds KC Stadium, Hull SL
August
3rd 20:00 Wigan Warriors DW Stadium, Wigan SL
12th 15:00 Catalan Dragons KC Stadium, Hull SL
19th 15:00 Widnes Vikings Stobart Stadium Halton, Widnes SL
September
2nd 15:00 Bradford Bulls Odsal Stadium, Bradford SL
9th 15:00 Castleford Tigers KC Stadium, Hull SL

9th when bradford and rovers next win

Ah a little dig.

Solomona and Myler not played all year so they were not out as you say. Morley has missed plenty of games due to his age. Blythe not first choice ahead of Bridge and Atkins.

Hodgson and Westwood fair enough.

We could easily say McKinnon, Sharp, Martin, Houghton, Ogre, O'Carroll.

He has to tho really just to appease some fickle fans . Thats just my opinion tho

Next week

Hull v Hudds
Saints v KR
Wigan v Bulls

I fancy us to win.

Week after

Bulls v London
Rovers v Salford
Leeds v Hull

Bulls/Rovers to win.

Week after it's the derby....